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RainbowSix Publish time 21-12-2007 11:42 PM

Airworthiness...bagi saya maksudnya kurang selamat sebab banyak peralatan dan design yg mencurigakan keselamatan penumpang semasa penerbangan. Fuselage tak reinforce dan mudah pecah dan kurang ketahanan, dan mungkin tidak ada peralatan keselamatan spt floating gear.

Entahlah....lebih spesifik, tak tahu.

razhar Publish time 22-12-2007 12:15 AM

Mi-171 tak Airworthiness? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: ;Pheli ni dah diguna dlm banyak operasi dan peperangan...masih tak Airworthiness kaaaa?:lol: ayoooo...;P

ketua_pramugara Publish time 22-12-2007 01:42 AM

Reply #82 razhar's post

untuk kasi civil operarte, kena ada airworthiness certificate. Military tak payah nak certificate pape. Mostly old production russian aircrafts and helis banyak handmade, and dibuat asalkan boleh terbang dan pergi bertempur. Macam mi-17 kat subang tu, I don't think kalau sebijik pintu M994-01tercabut, boleh amik M994-02 punya pintu kasi ganti..takkan sama beb! Mesti lari punya..maybe dia punya siaz ker..kedudukkan engsel ker..Untuk civil pakai kena ada standard la..kena ikut piawaian bagi memastikan ianya selamat digunakan oleh orang awam..ala..macam SIRIM la kira. Ada heli kecil kat bawah ni,UTM buat rasanya, tak dapat certification jugak..siap kat dalam cockpit ada notice kecik tulis that the helicopter dosen't have any certification dari FAA ke ape ntah..dah lupa.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v406/b200_driver/UTMChopper.jpg

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razhar Publish time 22-12-2007 02:19 AM

Reply #83 ketua_pramugara's post

Mi-171 ni hand made jugak kaaa? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: pe pe pun..wa tunggu ven ke..tango ke..bagi pandangan...bab2 hand made ni...:lol: :lol: :lol: ;P

ketua_pramugara Publish time 22-12-2007 02:24 AM

Reply #84 razhar's post

yup..tggu venez

razhar Publish time 22-12-2007 02:29 AM

Reply #85 ketua_pramugara's post

mana hang dapat conclusion yg 'Russian aircrafts and helis banyak handmade' nih?:lol: sukhoi kita pun hand made juga keeee?:lol:

ketua_pramugara Publish time 22-12-2007 04:53 AM

Reply #86 razhar's post

eh..Sukhoi kita ni mana ada hand made..dah canggih kilang kat irkutsk tu. Bebudak in charge design semua guna computer dah. Cutting and bending semua dah computerised..cuma assembly jer guna orang sbb nak rivet beribu-ribu lubang.

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bluesuntukaku2k Publish time 23-12-2007 12:16 PM

Originally posted by ketua_pramugara at 22-12-2007 01:42 http://mforum.cari.com.my/images/common/back.gif
untuk kasi civil operarte, kena ada airworthiness certificate. Military tak payah nak certificate pape. Mostly old production russian aircrafts and helis banyak handmade, and dibuat asalkan boleh ...


Yup... polis tak mau diregisterkan under military...sedangkan untuk operasi - operasi tertentu...bila kena bawa senjata... civil punya registration tak dibenarkan...hanya military registration jer yang boleh.....

mfadilaa Publish time 23-12-2007 05:45 PM

Lepak Kuantan 2-3 hari lps tgk operasi bantuan banjir...terpikir plak apa rasionalnya kerajaan beli byk sgt A109 nie bagi PUTD pakai...nk bwk supply xleh byk..nak buat sortie medivac pun aku tgk cam xkena jer...xleh bwk ramai pun satu hal...nape x beli jer Mi-17 sikit bagi PUTD nie..alang2 xnak gantung sgt kat epos...boleh ler buat angkut logistik TD time emergency xyah nak harap Nuri sgt...nak sumbat geng2 komando n PARA pun boleh...bukan aku nak kata A109 nie x perlu tp xkan PUTD nak pakai nie jer kot

ketua_pramugara Publish time 23-12-2007 07:25 PM

Reply #89 mfadilaa's post

dulu dah order dah 10 biik Mi-17-1..entah macam mana jadi senyap terus. Planning asal dulu nak beli Bo 105 (tak silap aku nak beli second-hand kot..dah lupa) , then tukar ke A109 pulak.. sbb dorg beli A109 ni sbb heli yang paling cost effective untuk carry out observation, reconnaissance,and area suppression missions. Satu lagi, fuction A109 putd ni as a support for our tanks yang br sampai tu, mcm US army, OH-58 Kiowa yang support. Tapi tactical transport tak berapa ok la A109 tu. Biasala..planning malaysia memang macam ni.. kena faham-fahamlah.. JP inc.

RainbowSix Publish time 23-12-2007 09:10 PM

Dlm masa banjir, A109 and Fennec tu boleh digunakan utk search and rescue, medevac. Heli-heli tu mesti boleh ambil pesakit.

bluesuntukaku2k Publish time 23-12-2007 11:06 PM

Ntah ler...pa ke silapnya depa amik 109 nie...aku pun tak paham...:mad:

yaminz Publish time 24-12-2007 09:49 AM

Reply #92 bluesuntukaku2k's post

Tula, lgpon dulu org selatan pon pki before tukar heli len... Suddenly, M'sia buy this heli... :L :L :L

IceMallet Publish time 24-12-2007 12:03 PM

Reply #89 mfadilaa's post

A109 ni menarik sikit, tu yg VVIPs dan wives depa suka nak naik heli ni huhu

yaminz Publish time 24-12-2007 05:38 PM

Reply #94 IceMallet's post

Loh, kalo mnarik tp xssuai ngan tugas, it just useless gak...

aneep Publish time 24-12-2007 07:07 PM

A109 mmg la bukan heli transport, sebb bukan beli utk jadi heli transport pon

-aneep-

yaminz Publish time 24-12-2007 07:57 PM

Reply #96 aneep's post

Yup, A109 esp for recon, limited anti tank firepower, limited transport

bluesuntukaku2k Publish time 24-12-2007 11:33 PM

By the way...peralatan didalamnya e.g MFD sangat sensitif...tak boleh berpanas....:o

IceMallet Publish time 25-12-2007 12:24 PM

Originally posted by yaminz at 24-12-2007 07:57 PM http://forum3.cari.com.my/images/common/back.gif
Yup, A109 esp for recon, limited anti tank firepower, limited transport

Limited transport for VVIPs and their wives, and at times, their misstresses..

RainbowSix Publish time 25-12-2007 12:42 PM

Mistress pun nak naik A109 jugak....fuiyo!

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