Konflik Palestin-Israel: Peserta festival muzik Israel dibunuh oleh Zionis sendiri. #30, Hamas tidak rancang serang festival muzik, Israel yang bunuh penduduk sendiri

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Konflik Palestin-Israel: Peserta festival muzik Israel dibunuh oleh Zionis sendiri

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Oleh KOSMO
19 November 2023, 10:28 am


Penemuan baharu itu menguatkan hujah bahawa peserta festival tersebut yang maut sebenarnya dibunuh oleh tentera Zionis sendiri. – Palestine Chronicle

TEL AVIV – Satu siasatan yang dijalankan pihak berkuasa Israel berhubung serangan Hamas pada 7 Oktober lalu mendapati bahawa kumpulan pejuang tersebut berkemungkinan besar tidak mengetahui mengenai penganjuran festival muzik yang diadakan di Kibbutz, lapor laman berita Middle East Eye.

Akhbar Israel, Haaretz melaporkan, sasaran serangan Hamas pada awalnya adalah Kibbutz, namun ia mengubah rancangan sebaik mendapati Festival Nova Music sedang diadakan.

“Menurut sumber polis, beberapa helikopter askar (Israel) yang tiba di lokasi kejadian melancarkan serangan ke atas anggota Hamas yang turut mengenai peserta festival. Seramai 364 orang dibunuh pada acara itu,” lapor Haaretz.

Penemuan baharu itu menguatkan hujah bahawa peserta festival tersebut yang maut sebenarnya dibunuh oleh tentera Zionis sendiri, lapor akhbar Palestine Chronicel.

Pada 16 Oktober lalu, seorang wanita Israel yang terselamat dalam serangan ke atas penempatan berhampiran sempadan Gaza pada 7 Oktober lalu mendedahkan bahawa orang awam Israel dibunuh oleh askar Zionis sendiri. – AGENSI

tumpanglalu74

Ade gak dengar..  

slavehunter

Sebab katanye kebakaran dan kemusnahan kereta2 di Nova festival music tu tak selari dengan weapon yang Hamas ada, most likely kena shoot dengan RPG dari Helicopter IDF.  Plus Israel media interview mangsa2 yang cedera di Hospital semua salahkan IDF sebab sengaja biarkan mereka cedera left to die for 6 hours tanpa bantuan.

sharlenetexas

Rakyat sendiri pun dia bunuh kejam.

Tinot7

sharlenetexas replied at 19-11-2023 09:22 PM
Rakyat sendiri pun dia bunuh kejam.

Rakyat zionis deme sendiri pun sanggup pukui2 israeli lain yg bkn zionis.. apa nak heran..

Yg peliknya ada goyim yg suka sokong deme2 ni..

Firenzza

sharlenetexas replied at 19-11-2023 09:22 PM
Rakyat sendiri pun dia bunuh kejam.

Mungkin zionis nk jadikan alasan tuduh Palestine yg bunuh sbb nk halalkan serangan kt Gaza. Yahudi punya belit  nabi sendiri pun diorg bunuh, apa la sgt rkyt sendiri asalkan matlamat nak halau palestin berjaya

dua_chzy

Berita ini tidak tepat menjelaskan hapa yang Haaret laporkan.

They were targeting Hamas. Terbunuh marhaen non Hamas. Collateral damage.

dua_chzy

Hairan aku berita English bila translate pi BM biasanya jauh lari dari content asal.

Ini laporan asal dek. Tapi yang ni takda mentioned pasal IDF accidentally killed Israeli. Tak tau mana artikel tu. Reposting pasal artikel tu banyak la tapi original one tak jumpa aku.
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-n ... 8-a3ef-f7fe8ca20000

Bila wartawan Melayu (pemalas) translate, dia buat ayat seolah2 Israel bertanggungjawab a 100 persen.

dua_chzy

Apa beza goyim dengan kafir in terms of 'differentiating those who are not one of us'? Anyone?

Atata

dua_chzy replied at 19-11-2023 09:55 PM
Hairan aku berita English bila translate pi BM biasanya jauh lari dari content asal.

Ini laporan as ...

Xdpt baca sis. Dia suruh subscribe. Cuba paste berita tu

dua_chzy

Atata replied at 19-11-2023 02:08 PM
Xdpt baca sis. Dia suruh subscribe. Cuba paste berita tu

Aiol pun sama. Dapat baca separuh ja. Aiol malas kasik email.

dua_chzy

Atata replied at 19-11-2023 02:08 PM
Xdpt baca sis. Dia suruh subscribe. Cuba paste berita tu

Nah. Aiols pi subs sebab nak baca berita2 laen.

dua_chzy

Sambungan:

grouper

Dah lama berita pasal hari 7/10 tu ramai gak org Israel tu yg kena bunuh ngan idf..masa idf lawan balik hamas diorg x leh beza mana Hamas ngan org awam...yg tebusan plak kena bunuh sekali ngan org yg tangkap diorg..idf masa nak lawan balik ngan Hamas time tu diorg pakai kete kebal bagai..mmg sapu abis sekali ngan rakyat diorg kat situ..bodoh betul

Atata

dua_chzy replied at 19-11-2023 10:18 PM
Nah. Aiols pi subs sebab nak baca berita2 laen.

Oh ingatkan bebayar. Na habis la ni sis makin kena suap propanganda lah ni

dua_chzy

Atata replied at 19-11-2023 03:13 PM
Oh ingatkan bebayar. Na habis la ni sis makin kena suap propanganda lah ni

Biorlah. Bosan dunia kalau suma orang sependapat.

Btw takda propaganda pun news site tu. Deol report berita dari serata Middle East dan bukan pro Zionism. Baca berita aiols tepek tu pun dah tau deols neutral reporting.

Atata

dua_chzy replied at 19-11-2023 10:20 PM
Sambungan:

K habis suda sy baca. Saya mau cakap idf tu bodooo. Generasi tiktok yang kena kasi jadi tentera. Saya ada tgk youtube ada forumer d bodgos suggest. Itu penganalis sebut, tentera israel yg idf tu semua lembik2 main tiktok jak dorang pandai. Berpanas sikit pun sudah resah, bawa pakaian kalis peluru pun keberatan, sbb idf ni bukan d train betul2. Dorang cuma budak2 yg kena wajibkan jd tentera utk sekian2 masa lepastu habis la, gtu jak. Tapi tentera israel yg import dari US itu baru betul2 tentera yg dilatih betul2 utk jadi tentera.
Tidak perasan ka tentera idf semua control2 cun la, tiber mencapub di tiktok la, sbb dorang tu semua budak2 muda yg kejap jak jd tentera. So possible atas kebodohan dorang ni yg x cukup latihan ketenteraan buat drg terlampau gelojoh mau tangkap hamas terus pegi tembak semua org.
Bangang. Semoga dorang akan dihantui selamanya atas dosa membunuh. Bagus dorang keluar jak dari negara Israel terorist tu yang wajibkan semua bangsa jews utk jadi tentera. Ramai jak budak2 jews tu menolak d suruh jadi tentera so akan kena hukum penjara 18 bulan lebih kurang. Nanti keluar penjara, akan sampai balik turn dorang and dorang reject lg. Sampai lah ajm. Yang tdk jadi tentera ni ada ampun sikit. Yg jadi tentera ni semoga Allah panjangkan kesakitan mental dorang atas dosa dorang membunuh sewenang2nya.

Atata

Tengok macamana askar2 idf ni trauma lepas d suruh membunuh di Gaza. Bagus suruh dorang semua ni balik jak la europe tanah asal dorang. dari dorang menetap di negara teroris Israel ni, dengan jiwa2 dorang sekali jadi collateral damage.

  

Decaffeinated

tak payah baca lah berita bahasa melayu.

Dah tentu dikarang khusus untuk melayu tambah garam tambah belacan sesuai tekak pembaca. Betul ka tidak apa kisah bukan ada siapa orang luar baca pun.

Atata

Israeli government accused of abandoning soldiers with PTSD





Up to one in 12 soldiers report symptoms, yet struggle for official recognition and access to help.

Israeli soldiers have accused the government of abandoning them with little support for post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) caused by their military service, according to local mental health groups and several former conscripts.

As many as one in 12 Israeli soldiers who experience high intensity combat report PTSD symptoms, one study found, yet the lack of recognition for mental health problems caused by combat has left many former service personnel without treatment after they leave the army.

"I shot my first person before I was 19. I had people die in my arms,” said Or Eilon, 24, who was a combat medic and unit commander. He experienced severe symptoms of PTSD and was released from his 32-month compulsory service in 2016 with only a few months to go.
“I started to go crazy, I burnt things, I hit my mum. I woke up with urine all over my bed. I saw pictures, smelled things, tasted things. It’s scary.”
After Eilon was released he was diagnosed with PTSD. Despite this, he struggled for three years to be recognised by the Ministry of Defence, an essential step to receiving benefits and treatment paid for by the government. “They want you to give up, they make you go through so much,” he said.
During the past decade, the Israel Defence Forces (IDF) have fought three major wars in Gaza, all of which have been tainted by allegations of abuse. They have also maintained a crippling military occupation on Palestinians in the West Bank and, earlier this year, the UN accused soldiers of intentionally firing on civilians protesting at the Gaza frontier.

The struggle for recognition of the mental health problems caused by combat exposes a separate, hidden cost of control over the Palestinian territories and decades of intensive Israeli military operations in the Middle East.

One former soldier, Ben Goor Levy, 39, developed PTSD after he shot and killed a man but had to press for years to get the condition officially recognised.
“The psychiatrist in the army diagnosed me with PTSD but it took the Ministry of Defence eight years to approve it – they tried to get away from their responsibility,” he said. “They say: ‘So what if you shot someone? We trained you to do that.’”
To get official recognition of a PTSD diagnosis often means a hefty legal bill, according to Guy Konforti, a lawyer and former legal adviser to the army.
“The process costs a lot of money and can take years. The victims have to prove that the injury occurred during military service. Change the system so that the burden of proof is on the Ministry of Defence instead.”

Goor Levy founded the organisation Soldiers for Life with Ido Gal Razon, a former soldier who testified before a parliamentary committee about the lack of PTSD treatment. The organisation helps other veterans with the costly process of trying to get recognition for their PTSD.

The psychiatrist Danny Brom founded the NGO Metiv, the Israel Center for the Treatment of Psychotrauma in 1989 to try to fill the gap in trauma support for former soldiers. There is no active screening by the army to pick up on people with the condition, he said.

“People come out of the army and say that the government throws us away, what are we fighting for?” Brom said. “We are mopping the floor while the tap is still running … There are youngsters in this crazy situation and they pay the price.”

Mental health charities are already stretched. During a rise in violence in Gaza in May, one group, Natal, received more than 2,000 phone calls in one week, as their number appears on major channels during crises.

Maor Gozlan, 29, was diagnosed with PTSD after his unit came under attack in 2011. He has yet to be treated for his symptoms, which when bad can cause panic attacks and make him unable to leave his home.


Maor Gozlan was diagnosed with PTSD after his unit came under attack in 2011. Photograph: Charlotta Lindblom and Amanda Forslund

“Every six months you have to send new documents, they ask for papers you can’t get,” he said. “Now it’s been eight years. I have done so much for the country – I wish the army would accept their responsibility.”

Eyal Fruchter, researcher and director of the mental health division at Rambam Health Care Campus, says the government is skirting its responsibilities. “I think the Ministry of Defence is mistreating people. It takes too long, people won’t file for compensation. They will go privately or to Natal,” he said.
In a written response, the Ministry of Defence said: “The State of Israel is fully committed to providing social and medical care for those who were injured while serving their country. In order to be eligible for services, the applicant must demonstrate that a disability was caused or aggravated during, and as a result of his/her military service.”

Meanwhile, Or Elion says his long wait for recognition prevented him from getting better. While waiting he did not start treatment on his own, fearing that any progress might make it even less likely that he would win the benefits and treatment he thought he deserved. Any sign of progress, he felt, would be used by the Ministry of Defence to evade their responsibility.

“It took me almost three years to get recognised,” he said. “That’s as long as the army service itself.”
In August this year the Ministry of Defence recognised that Eilon had PTSD as a result of his service. He is to start treatment in September, three years after he was released from the army.


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/aug/21/israeli-government-accused-of-abandoning-soldiers-with-ptsd