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[Politik] Sorotan debat Najib-Anwar (live)

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Post time 13-5-2022 10:42 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
axl_bach replied at 13-5-2022 10:34 AM
Masalah PH adalah dorg pemikiran simplistik, yg mana pada aku adalah tipikal pemikiran pembangkang ...

Sebenarnya yang buat policy dan proposal pentadbiran negara ialah ministries.. the PTD, pegawai2 atasan kerajaan... then tukang bagi kelulusan is the cabinet ministers... so tanpa mengira sesiapa pun yang memerintah, the blueprint is already there...

Masa PH take over sekejap tu, banyak proposal2 and keputusan kerajaan diorang persetankan... pastu mula buat decision2 bodoh sbb dah terkehel dengan janji manifesto.... then diorang baru sedar benda yang diorang duk perjuangkan itu tak workable/feasible pun.. hence diorang buat desperate measure, u-turn GST, sbb itu saja yang mudah utk implement (zero-rated tax sahaja) berbanding items2 lain dalam manifesto.. tp mereka pejam sebelah mata dengan impact kemusnahan ekonomi Malaysia hasil dari decision tu...

Laung2 BERSIH, HUDUD itu semua hanyalah political agenda, the war cry... all these penting utk gain political mileage and meraih undi semata..
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Post time 13-5-2022 10:43 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
axl_bach replied at 13-5-2022 10:34 AM
Masalah PH adalah dorg pemikiran simplistik, yg mana pada aku adalah tipikal pemikiran pembangkang ...

Sorry uolz, i bukan nak gaduh ngn u ni.. i nak bincang secara ilmiah... TQ for your thoughts and voicing out ur opinion...
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Post time 13-5-2022 10:54 AM | Show all posts
R2D2 replied at 13-5-2022 10:32 AM
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najib punya solutions pelancau apaaa???suruh petronas bailout sapura??pastu pusing pasal gst apa laa.dia sendiri pun anak beranak liat bayar cukaiii.tu belum citer  pasal puak2 celaka ni sorok duit kat offshore.celakak punya barua macai
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Post time 13-5-2022 10:55 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
ultra78 replied at 13-5-2022 07:27 AM
Dalam isu ecrl,aku sokong sepenuhnya pembinaan ecrl ke kelantan. Aku masih ingat si jomo bangsat tu  ...

jomo bangsat tu siapa? saya tertinggal tren pulak pasal statement bangang dia suruh naik flight tu
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Post time 13-5-2022 10:58 AM | Show all posts
shi_jewel replied at 13-5-2022 10:31 AM
iol tak tengok pun sebab dua2x bukan pemerintah utama negara.

jd, umpama diorang bertanding debate  ...

abih tu nak suruh debat anwar(ketua pembangkang) vs ismail(PM)..mangkok mael tu lagiiii la tak tau apa2
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Post time 13-5-2022 11:02 AM | Show all posts
green~tea replied at 13-5-2022 10:42 AM
Sebenarnya yang buat policy dan proposal pentadbiran negara ialah ministries.. the PTD, pegawai2 a ...

Sbb tu x fair nk bandingkan manifesto parti kerajaan dgn parti yg jadi pembangkang....xkan sama konsep

Manifesto parti kerajaan dah tentu realistik dan feasible....pembangkang akan sentiasa populis dan x realistik pun...Bkn PH saja, tgk parti pembangkang lain pun sama semuanya bersifat retorik.....

Sbb tu aku pun x setuju jer dgn janji2 manifesto populis nih, cuma pada aku teras utama pentadbiran adalah kena ada integrity so yg tu mmg kena perbetulkan itu core.....tp kalau pilih PH mmg aku dah expect akan ada bebanan pada ekonomi...benda nih kita kira pilih antara dua lah.....satu pihak yg xder integrity tp pandai jana ekonomi dan bagi sedikit pulangan kepada rakyat vs satu pihak lagi yg cuba nk pulihkan integrity tp akan susahkan ekonomi sampai susahkan rakyat......

Bagi rakyat terbanyak aku yakin mereka akan pilih pihak yg x berintegrity janji ada sedikit pulangan utk mereka...bagi yg faham prinsip maybe akan pilih sukar sementara asalkan perkara asas dapat diperbetulkan......
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Post time 13-5-2022 11:03 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Perangai typical budak kelas belakang

Anwar didn’t do homework for debate, says analyst


PETALING JAYA: An analyst says former prime minister Najib Razak may have come out on top in the highly anticipated debate with Anwar Ibrahim last night, as the opposition leader was thought to have failed to prepare for the event.
Akademi Nusantara’s Azmi Hassan believed that Najib fared better than Anwar as he was able to dish out statistics and data, which the PKR president seemingly failed to rebut.

He cited how Anwar failed to respond to Najib’s point on how the Gini coefficient, which measures income disparity, shrunk during his tenure as prime minister but grew in Pakatan Harapan’s 22 months in power.



“It seemed like Anwar didn’t do his homework. As a potential prime minister, he has to have a grasp on everything, whether it’s economics, geopolitics, or even social issues. But I’m quite dissatisfied (by Anwar’s debate performance).

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Azmi Hassan.
“On the other hand, Najib put up statistics and data from his experience as a former prime minister in defending his points, especially on Sapura and Malaysia’s future.
“But did we learn anything new? No, we didn’t. We’re very aware of what both debaters said,” Azmi told FMT. “It was a normal debate; nothing much, nothing new.”
Azmi perceived the debate as a showdown between a former prime minister and a “wannabe” prime minister, but felt that Najib went into it with less to lose compared to Anwar.
“Najib doesn’t hold any position in Umno and he has never said he wants to be prime minister again. On the other hand, Anwar is the future prime minister, at least for PH,” he said.

He also said Najib approached the debate seeking to give solutions based on data and his experience, while Anwar seemed to be focused on faultfinding.
“I think I counted eight or nine times where Anwar used the term ‘forensic audit’, meaning he’s trying to find fault rather than propose a solution, the latter of which is very important for a future prime minister.”
But Oh Ei Sun of the Singapore Institute of International Affairs said Anwar “undoubtedly” came out tops in the debate, by strongly renewing calls for an overall reform of the governmental system to address systemic corruption and incompetence.
Oh Ei Sun.
On the other hand, he told FMT, Najib mostly relied on his much-repeated emphasis on political stability and economic prosperity for Malaysia.

With that said, Oh believed that the debate brought some sense of political participation to common folk, albeit indirectly, after the past few years of elites just wresting power from one another as Malaysians watched from the sidelines.
“I think the debate provided the summary of both sides of the controversy for those who went for the content, and at least some entertainment for those who are fans of either side,” he said.
The much-awaited debate saw Najib and Anwar touch on familiar themes that have come to define their careers, starting off with a back-and-forth on Sapura before going into national issues like the economy, governance and the way forward for the country.
However, what was billed as a lively debate turned out to be a session for Najib and Anwar to dish out political rhetoric.
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Post time 13-5-2022 11:03 AM | Show all posts
green~tea replied at 13-5-2022 10:43 AM
Sorry uolz, i bukan nak gaduh ngn u ni.. i nak bincang secara ilmiah... TQ for your thoughts and v ...

No problemo....aku ok jer kalau berbahas secara ilmiah.....
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Post time 13-5-2022 11:05 AM | Show all posts
Edited by tumpanglalu74 at 13-5-2022 11:06 AM

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Post time 13-5-2022 11:19 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Edited by green~tea at 13-5-2022 11:22 AM
alesandra replied at 13-5-2022 10:58 AM
abih tu nak suruh debat anwar(ketua pembangkang) vs ismail(PM)..mangkok mael tu lagiiii la tak tau ...


Mael lambong tu takut nak buat decision... dgn kitchen cabinet sinisters sendiri pun heols takut nak hadap
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Post time 13-5-2022 11:21 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
axl_bach replied at 13-5-2022 11:03 AM
No problemo....aku ok jer kalau berbahas secara ilmiah.....

Iols bincang elok2 ok je.. tp bila puak2 political zealots dah start masuk mencerca dan memaki biasa nya iols blah je... no point discussing sbb some people masuk benang sbb nak hembus je, bukan nak digest apa2
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Post time 13-5-2022 11:26 AM | Show all posts
green~tea replied at 13-5-2022 11:21 AM
Iols bincang elok2 ok je.. tp bila puak2 political zealots dah start masuk mencerca dan memaki bia ...

Hahahahah, kalau dah bertembung dgn fanatik politik x kisah dari pihak mana pun mmg game over jer...hahaha

BTW katakan lah hujah nk bantu SAPURA nih sbb nk bantu staff dan vendor2 yg terkesan yg berurusan dgn SAPURA semua tu, apa kata dari bantu SAPURA yg secara indirectly bantu vendor dan staff2 tu sumer x bleh ker kerajaan bantu VENDOR2 dan STAFF2 Sapura yg terkesan directly...maksudnay dari bagi soft loan kepada SApura ke apa ke xleh ke kerajaan bagi soft loan kepada vendor2 yg terkesan tu secara terus?

Ni pemikiran bodoh aku yg bukan ngaji ekonomi lah,hahahahah
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Post time 13-5-2022 11:27 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
axl_bach replied at 13-5-2022 11:02 AM
Sbb tu x fair nk bandingkan manifesto parti kerajaan dgn parti yg jadi pembangkang....xkan sama ko ...

Betul lah konsep pemahaman uolz ni... tp yang terjadi skang lain.. there are some people bila dah naik... dan diorang realize diorang tak dapat lama sbb insufficient political funding (if u get what i mean).. so sementara diorang berkuasa tu... diorang sakau je apa yang boleh sbb derang tahu, derang short term sahaja... diorang tak kira dah nasihat pihak pengurusan...

Yang rakyat nak is government and politic yang stabil.. sepatutnya kita nak government yang stabil je dah cukup, tp kita tak dpt lari dari politicians,  ini kelemahan sistem demokrasi
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Post time 13-5-2022 11:32 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
axl_bach replied at 13-5-2022 11:26 AM
Hahahahah, kalau dah bertembung dgn fanatik politik x kisah dari pihak mana pun mmg game over jer. ...

Ada existing contracts sapura dapat dari petronas.. banyaaakkkkkkk yang still kena serve sebenarnya... benda ni mcm domino effect lah, habis company2 lain yang subcon dgn sapura energy will be affected.. kalo kill sapura, tetap lah petronas kena buat balik bidding and tender award... makan masa... sbb technical & feasibility study je boleh makan masa 2-3 tahun... bila project delay, escalate cost juga...

Problem sapura is bab financials... punca dari tan sri shahril tu jugak (mysejahtera shareholder eh kebetulan plak khuens)
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Post time 13-5-2022 11:33 AM | Show all posts
green~tea replied at 13-5-2022 11:19 AM
Mael lambong tu takut nak buat decision... dgn kitchen cabinet sinisters sendiri pun heols takut n ...

dia puppet shj.cukup syarat asal ada PM je.useless.
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Post time 13-5-2022 11:38 AM | Show all posts
green~tea replied at 13-5-2022 11:32 AM
Ada existing contracts sapura dapat dari petronas.. banyaaakkkkkkk yang still kena serve sebenarny ...

Hahahaha, x faham aku dunia konglomerat nih.....
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Post time 13-5-2022 11:39 AM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Edited by green~tea at 13-5-2022 11:41 AM
axl_bach replied at 13-5-2022 11:38 AM
Hahahaha, x faham aku dunia konglomerat nih.....


Haa.. biasa lah tu bila corporate restructuring, banyak benda nak kena tengok.. sbb tu ada team legal , finance, strategy and company secretary yang bagi advisory

And ada juga some companies bila restructuring mcm MAS suatu masa dulu.. dia kena tukar nama company, sbb nak tamatkan sesetengah contracts yang ada terms "selagi ada bulan dan bintang" tu
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Post time 13-5-2022 11:40 AM | Show all posts
green~tea replied at 13-5-2022 09:59 AM
Tak sampai 0.2% pun total investment PNB ASB1... kalo tengok senarai top 20 pelaburan terbesar ASB ...

thanks
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Post time 13-5-2022 11:41 AM | Show all posts
mojarean_X replied at 13-5-2022 11:03 AM
Perangai typical budak kelas belakang

Anwar didn’t do homework for debate, says analyst

back on forth on sapura?????alahaiiii bodonya.sejarah asal debat ni. terjadi ...najib gatai ckp pasal nak bailout sapura.lps tu rafizi counter balik.punpang2 cabar anwar ..anwar sambut.ye sepatutnya psl sapura.back and forth my ass.there's nothing wrong buat forensic audit pasal sapura ni.apa yg sebenarnya terjadi?budak kelas belakang rempit je nganjing perkataan forensic tak tentu hala
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