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[Tempatan] Mrna leh masuk dlm nukleus pulak dah

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Post time 6-3-2022 04:37 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
kepompong replied at 6-3-2022 12:26 PM
kanak2 sekolah yg ambik sino kena jugak booster kan.. i mean mysejahtera akn jadi putih semula? at ...

Takat ni hanya 18 tahun ke atas je boleh booster budak skolah belum lagi dibenarkan dan harapnya tkde la kot.
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Post time 6-3-2022 05:34 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Suchi replied at 6-3-2022 08:32 AM
Taktau la berdasarkan pengalaman sendiri yg dah 3 kali  sino pastu jaga anak positif baru2 ni keka ...

Naratif vaksin cuma memildkan simptom, bukan mencegah jangkitan tu baru keluar selepas ianya terbukti tak mencegah jangkitan.

Orang2 Sains sebelum itu, konfiden jual naratif berbeza. Seperti acik ni.

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Post time 6-3-2022 05:36 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
lurkingaround replied at 6-3-2022 08:04 AM
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Betul kah tu.?



CDC?

Cuba ko tengok video yang aku tepek di post #162.

Director CDC tu.
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Post time 6-3-2022 05:39 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
lurkingaround replied at 6-3-2022 08:08 AM
Macan mana vaksin Covid mRNA Pfizer boleh tukar kepada vaksin DNA dalam "liver"/hati.?
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Boleh tengok penerangan doktor ni.



Boleh tengok video pendek pasal ni di channel beliau juga.
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Post time 6-3-2022 05:42 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
lurkingaround replied at 6-3-2022 08:08 AM
Macan mana vaksin Covid mRNA Pfizer boleh tukar kepada vaksin DNA dalam "liver"/hati.?
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Ada keluar media kokesen tahun lepas pasal ni.



"Study suggests".
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Post time 6-3-2022 06:26 PM | Show all posts
honeybee1802 replied at 6-3-2022 04:22 PM
Who is this azman plak?bab2 biologi hakak is surrender...lg plak msk dna...rna...

... sejenis doktor ... bertapak di tweeter ..
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Post time 6-3-2022 06:37 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Buritan replied at 6-3-2022 02:12 PM
Mknanya betulke manimalar tuu ckp.. kalo betulllaa.. scarynyaa

Jap nak tanya, nape asyik dgr pasl pfizer je. So teknologi yg AZ guna tu yg paling selamat n bagus ke? Sbb kata sino tak powerful sgt.
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 Author| Post time 6-3-2022 06:58 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Naatasha replied at 6-3-2022 06:37 PM
Jap nak tanya, nape asyik dgr pasl pfizer je. So teknologi yg AZ guna tu yg paling selamat n bagus ...

Wallahualam. Tak tau.. koh koh
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Post time 6-3-2022 07:04 PM | Show all posts
lurkingaround replied at 6-3-2022 04:08 PM
Macan mana vaksin Covid mRNA Pfizer boleh tukar kepada vaksin DNA dalam "liver"/hati.?
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mRNA ni dia mcm, satu transkripsi instruction nak hasilkan protein. Selalunya proses dia dari DNA--transcript mRNA --mRNA diubah/translate jadi protein..Dalam badan kita yg buat kerja ni semua protein yg buat; contoh enzyme ke, sistem imun kita punya cells ke, semuanya ni dalam bentuk protein. So, mRNA vaccine ni, dia mengandungi arahan nak hasilkan spike protein SARSCov2 menggunakan machinery sel kita . Jadi bila dh hasilkan spike protein, akan alert sel imun kita. The question yg scientists dok tanya, ialah, boleh ke, mRNA ni  patah balik convert/tukar jadi DNA dalam nucleus sel kita? The word is , reverse transcribed. Jadi the Swedish paper ni menunjukkan, ye, the mRNA ni boleh di'reverse transcribed' jadi DNA. Dan diorang tunjuk ni, in vitro, maknanya dalam cell culture. Diaorang bela sel liver HuH7, pastu dia bagi exposed dgn mRNA pfizer bioNtech. And diorang found out, the mRNA tu dh convert jadi DNA dalam sel liver tu. Paper ni dh peer reviewed. Persoalannya, bila dh jadi DNA, the DNA tu duduk dalam nucleus ke, integrate dgn kita punya DNA ke..so ada byk lah persoalan lagi. Yang tu, mesti scientists akan teruskan buat kajian lagi. Science is about finding the truth. Given few years time, insyaAllah, kita akan ada, a much clearer picture on what the vaccine does at the molecular and celullar level.


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Post time 6-3-2022 07:04 PM | Show all posts
lurkingaround replied at 6-3-2022 04:08 PM
Macan mana vaksin Covid mRNA Pfizer boleh tukar kepada vaksin DNA dalam "liver"/hati.?
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mRNA ni dia mcm, satu transkripsi instruction nak hasilkan protein. Selalunya proses dia dari DNA--transcript mRNA --mRNA diubah/translate jadi protein..Dalam badan kita yg buat kerja ni semua protein yg buat; contoh enzyme ke, sistem imun kita punya cells ke, semuanya ni dalam bentuk protein. So, mRNA vaccine ni, dia mengandungi arahan nak hasilkan spike protein SARSCov2 menggunakan machinery sel kita . Jadi bila dh hasilkan spike protein, akan alert sel imun kita. The question yg scientists dok tanya, ialah, boleh ke, mRNA ni  patah balik convert/tukar jadi DNA dalam nucleus sel kita? The word is , reverse transcribed. Jadi the Swedish paper ni menunjukkan, ye, the mRNA ni boleh di'reverse transcribed' jadi DNA. Dan diorang tunjuk ni, in vitro, maknanya dalam cell culture. Diaorang bela sel liver HuH7, pastu dia bagi exposed dgn mRNA pfizer bioNtech. And diorang found out, the mRNA tu dh convert jadi DNA dalam sel liver tu. Paper ni dh peer reviewed. Persoalannya, bila dh jadi DNA, the DNA tu duduk dalam nucleus ke, integrate dgn kita punya DNA ke..so ada byk lah persoalan lagi. Yang tu, mesti scientists akan teruskan buat kajian lagi. Science is about finding the truth. Given few years time, insyaAllah, kita akan ada, a much clearer picture on what the vaccine does at the molecular and celullar level.


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Post time 6-3-2022 07:14 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
axl_bach replied at 6-3-2022 11:41 AM
Dia bkn hematologist... Hematologist ni pakar darah...

Dia histopathologist,  pakar kajian sel d ...

Kalau histopatho , bukan calang2 jugak. One of the reason i elak dpt pfizer sbb guna mrna
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Post time 6-3-2022 07:22 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Naatasha replied at 6-3-2022 06:37 PM
Jap nak tanya, nape asyik dgr pasl pfizer je. So teknologi yg AZ guna tu yg paling selamat n bagus ...

Kalau AZ, dia guna DNA Inside an Adenovirus


The Oxford-AstraZeneca team used a modified version of a chimpanzee adenovirus, known as ChAdOx1
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Post time 6-3-2022 07:22 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
monreyes replied at 6-3-2022 11:59 AM
mmg byk perkara x elok psl pfizer....
big tq to belastop yg ntah mana hilangnya....
wpun kekadang  ...

Ko jgn...kami anak beranak cap.pfizer ni...hwaaaaa
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Post time 6-3-2022 07:23 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
maggisedap replied at 6-3-2022 07:04 PM
mRNA ni dia mcm, satu transkripsi instruction nak hasilkan protein. Selalunya proses dia dari D ...

I ada jumpa pasal ni, tgk gmbar rajah, supposed spike mRna xboleh jd DNA. Tp mcm u ckp, masa akan tentukan betul ke x. Seram kalau convert jd DNA
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Post time 6-3-2022 07:26 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
KucaiHijau replied at 5-3-2022 11:10 PM
X payah masuk DNA pun kalau nak rosakkan manusia ...ubah epigenetics je pun dah cukup. On kan gene2  ...

Proses bukan ambil masa 1 or 2 generations saja.. Process lama... Sama seperti kejadian awal earth panas lebih oven dan sekarang sudah ada creatures
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Post time 6-3-2022 07:28 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
maggisedap replied at 6-3-2022 03:04 AM
mRNA ni dia mcm, satu transkripsi instruction nak hasilkan protein. Selalunya proses dia dari D ...

Target b cell.. Bukan t cell....
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Post time 6-3-2022 07:31 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Edited by Dwdrum at 6-3-2022 03:33 AM

China pun sudah buat mrna vaccine... Acik acik masih sembang vaccine mana lebih bagus...iya lah dahulu backup vaccine conventional china sebab mrna vaccine barat buat kan.. China lambat sedikit technology... Depa sekarang perlu admit mrna vaccine juga bagus apabila sudah ada product sendiri......
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Post time 6-3-2022 07:40 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
dua_chzy replied at 6-3-2022 01:54 PM
Aik, yang ambik Pfizer pun kena suruh booster ka?

Ye sis kena. Appointment dapat melalui mysejahtera. Dua kali iols dapat. Dua2 iols tolak.
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Post time 6-3-2022 07:42 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Buritan replied at 6-3-2022 02:31 PM
Mknanya manimalar tuu salah la ekk..



Kalau rs x confident, hold dulu lah. Insya Allah 2 dos yg diambil masih mampu utk cegah mudarat covid. Kecuali you 2 dos sinovac, terpaksa lah booster jg utk elak status bertukar dlm mysejahtera. Aku sinovac+pfizer...so far xde apa2 side effects.
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Post time 6-3-2022 07:43 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Buritan replied at 6-3-2022 02:06 PM
Aah betul.. sakit kat bhgn pinggang ke kaki.. sebijon ape yg aku rasa gak.. aku tepek dgn ais rasa ...

Uols pun rasa gak ke sakit cam iols ni? Adoi sabar ja lah. Dah la seharian banyak bergerak so terbatas la bila sakit2 urat ni.
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