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FPDA? benarkah malaysia dilindungi ?

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Post time 15-6-2009 04:51 PM | Show all posts

Balas #20 supergripen\ catat

kebimbangan hang berasas....mmg patut hang mistrust depa nih... tapi aku tak la bimbang sangat, pasai kalu depa nak tanah negara, mmg kena isytihar perang dulu... which aku rasa atm more then capable to handle the situation....  

bagi aku, depa nih tak lebih dari kilang dan stor senjata kita semata2...
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Post time 15-6-2009 07:00 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by supergripen at 15-6-2009 15:57
For me,never trust anyone.Kalau nak harap diorang tolong kita masa kita kesusahan,rasanya memang 'susah' la kita nanti.We shud take our own defence very very seriously..

The FPDA is not withou ...


PSK? mana itu.
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Post time 15-6-2009 07:14 PM | Show all posts

Reply #11 nando's post

Do u really think the SAF yg paling kuat di ASEAN? I highly doubt that..they might have the best equipment that money can buy,but the strongest? Naahh...
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Post time 15-6-2009 07:31 PM | Show all posts

Reply #10 IceMallet's post

I kindda agree with you on the foundations of a new SEA alliance. China might not be as benign as the US has been. There will be a time when you see them everywhere in South China Sea as China considers it a chinese sea. Asean must be prepared for such an eventuality. Countries like Australia, Singapore, South Korea and Japan are making preparations. Some of the preparations are tangible enough for everyone to see.

China`s influence will run deep into the fabric of every Asean nation with a large chinese diaspora. It will have very large ramifications. Watch and tremble as the sleeping giant is awaken and will protect the sons/daughters of heaven everywhere.
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Post time 15-6-2009 07:34 PM | Show all posts

Reply #21 windof's post

Bukan bimbang..but a deep mistrust.

I hope the powers that be have all angles covered.
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Post time 15-6-2009 07:35 PM | Show all posts

Reply #19 windof's post

Of course. Who else can you depend upon and who can come to your aid in minutes? Whatever happens in peninsula Malaysia affects Singapore. Vice versa. Singapore is the key to South East Asia and Oceania. The defence of Australia and New Zealand, for example, starts in Singapore. Everyone knows that.
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Post time 15-6-2009 07:38 PM | Show all posts

Reply #20 supergripen's post

Here`s a solution. Don`t ask for our help. Is it not that simple? Or does it complicate matters for you?
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Post time 15-6-2009 07:42 PM | Show all posts

Reply #21 windof's post

Kuddos to Windof. You are smart enough not to be paranoid about an invasion from Singapore. There is no benefit to be gained with the conversion of Peninsula Malaysia into another Palestine. I find it bizzare when ordinary Singaporeans are not even bothered about Malaysia and people up north are singing tunes about an invasion. (As mentioned)If you do not want assistance, dont ask. It`s that simple. Fix your own military dilemma.
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Post time 15-6-2009 07:58 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Periuk_api1209 at 15-6-2009 13:05


itu la masalah geng2 masuk air ni....

bila kita nak kuat kan pertahanan kata membazir...

bila minta bantuan kata mengharapkan org lain.....


Satu nasihat aku untuk puak2 mcm ni - kalau semua serba x kena, pegi jauh2 pindah ke negara lain - bumi Tuhan ni luas, bukan Msia semata-mata. Bukan apa, kalau jatuh Msia ke tangan mana2 negara 'sok, susah hidup diorang, salahkan ATM jugak!
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Post time 15-6-2009 10:05 PM | Show all posts

Balas #28 belacan79\ catat

though i doubt the peninsular can be turned into another palestine(YOU WISH ), i too share your opinion though in this case the poison shrimp has added the aroma of power projection..i personally has always advocated we look north for any potential adversaries, though China has always had a more 'kow tow' method of empire building, but these being a new age maybe such influence methods may not be enough militarily for some of their leaders, but then again maybe they do not want to repeat japan's greater sphere of prosperity fiasco all over again..
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Post time 15-6-2009 10:37 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by <i>windof</i> at 15-6-2009 16:00 <a href="http://mforum2.cari.com.my/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=32117652&ptid=423884" target="_blank"><img src="http://mforum2.cari.com.my/images/common/back.gif" border="0" onload="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.alt='Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out';}" onmouseover="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.style.cursor='hand'; this.alt='Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out';}" onclick="if(!this.resized) {return true;} else {window.open(this.src);}" onmousewheel="return imgzoom(this);" alt="" /></a><br />
kalu kita tengok the other way, kemungkinan senjata2 tuh bukan utk menyerang malaysia, tapi utk digunakan bersama malaysia utk membantai aggressor....dak gitu belacan?
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maaf cakap tapi kwn tak percaya spore habis berbillion dolar dlm pertahanan sekadar untuk pertahankan
negara jiranya..terutamanya jirannya msia..kalau boleh setiap inci tanah msia nak dibalun...
tak mustahil doktrin perang mereka johor adalah zon pemampan [green zon] dan harus dikuasa i
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Post time 15-6-2009 11:58 PM | Show all posts

Reply #30 mmc's post

Yea..We`ve got better things to do then initiate some invasion; like dating, studies, dining out, wasting our time on movies, computer games, buying property all over the world, going on vacation, buying stocks, etc. We are also humans with dreams, loved ones and ambitions of making our lives a better one. War and conflict will solve nothing. Cant help it if you get paranoid. Seriously, you`ve got better things to think about and do. We are not invading anyone.

Anyway, China`s track record in SEA is horrid. They have already sunk a couple of Vietnamese naval ships in the last decade; an Asean member. They nearly sunk a filipino naval ship as well; traded shots with an Indonesian naval ship too. If it was`nt China the giant, such actions would provoke a war or expanded conflict almost instantly. Vietnam knows better. And now the Chinese are harrasing US naval ships and crashing into them.  How about RMN ships when it is deemed expedient for them to flex thier military muscle? Be very afraid. Hence, RSN and RAN are beefing up. Same with South Korea, Taiwan and Japan. Together, these navies will form the bulwark of an emerging counter force against the Plan in concert with the USN. You are welcome to join us.

[ Last edited by  belacan79 at 16-6-2009 00:38 ]
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Post time 16-6-2009 12:57 AM | Show all posts

Balas #28 belacan79\ catat

i know psk reasons of existence since it left the federation....  that's why i'm not worried at all...i know your mission and your reliance on malaysia to survive, strategically, economically, financially and militarily...vice versa...depends on interpretation.... since ur country has been kind enuff to take all the bombardments of malaysians anger and dissastifaction in time of needs... the logics and patterns are clear enuff to predict... we'll continue to get along as per normal...

yeah...you too know better that there's no reason to try to take even an inch of our soil, period. as long as we continue to live as civilised people, we'll be good neighbors, of course with slight frictions here and there all the time....
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Post time 16-6-2009 01:03 AM | Show all posts

Balas #31 zvicmorrow\ catat

sargeant....dont use ur eyeballs MK2 alone to detect ur adversary... you have been given the optronics and electronics warfare systems.... the least u can use is ur NVG....make full use of them...
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Post time 16-6-2009 01:12 AM | Show all posts
reliance..survive, strategically, economically, financially and militarily


Huh? It`s actually very diversified globally. It would be unwise to depend on one country. But obviously the two countries are friends at the end of the day. Yes, you are right. Who tolerates who is an academic question. Not really essential. Lum tidor lagi lobai Windof rupanyer   Ini pasti sering kerja malam.
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Post time 16-6-2009 01:28 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by <i>windof</i> at 16-6-2009 01:03 <a href="http://mforum2.cari.com.my/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=32129139&ptid=423884" target="_blank"><img src="http://mforum2.cari.com.my/images/common/back.gif" border="0" onload="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.alt='Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out';}" onmouseover="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.style.cursor='hand'; this.alt='Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out';}" onclick="if(!this.resized) {return true;} else {window.open(this.src);}" onmousewheel="return imgzoom(this);" alt="" /></a><br />
sargeant....dont use ur eyeballs MK2 alone to detect ur adversary... you have been given the optronics and electronics warfare systems.... the least u can use is ur NVG....make full use of them...<img src="images/smilies/tongue.gif" smilieid="8" border="0" alt="" />
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and i wonder apasal kali ni spore tak bangkang pembinaan jambatan ke3, ada udang disebalik mee ke?
adakah kerana jambatan ni akan dibina kat area tenggara johor?.. memudaahkan infantri spore masuk
hingga ke mersing tanpa bersusah payah melalui jalan laut.......mmmm i wonder......
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Post time 16-6-2009 01:34 AM | Show all posts

Balas #36 zvicmorrow\ catat

once again...dont look down on ur own capability while looking up at ur "potential" adversary (for healthy competition or for destroying each other, u choose....)

hmmm..i wonder too....why dont u think of using the 3rd bridge as an easy access to deploy our troops there? (if u are thinking of making war not love (love thy neighbours).... )
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Post time 16-6-2009 03:17 AM | Show all posts

Balas #2 windof\ catat

Mereka nak datang pun dorang tengok perang atau kena serang sebab apa... Kalau Indon serang, sure British cepat sampai... Australia NZ kalau masa konfrantasi dulu dah berkali-kali minta baru datang (macam dok merayu, better kita defence sendiri je). Tapi kalau perang dengan lain di rantau sini seperti Singa, GajahLand atau Pinoy belum tentu dorang datang. Kalau datang pun nak bedal kita silap-silap.. Bigger senario pula, kalau Chin Chong yang datang contoh rebut Spratly.. tak de le dorang datang kecuali Uncle Sam datang dulu... I think.
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Post time 16-6-2009 02:04 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by <i>Laxamana.</i> at 16-6-2009 03:17 <a href="http://mforum2.cari.com.my/redirect.php?goto=findpost&pid=32130245&ptid=423884" target="_blank"><img src="http://mforum2.cari.com.my/images/common/back.gif" border="0" onload="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.alt='Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out';}" onmouseover="if(this.width>screen.width*0.7) {this.resized=true; this.width=screen.width*0.7; this.style.cursor='hand'; this.alt='Click here to open new window\nCTRL+Mouse wheel to zoom in/out';}" onclick="if(!this.resized) {return true;} else {window.open(this.src);}" onmousewheel="return imgzoom(this);" alt="" /></a><br />
Mereka nak datang pun dorang tengok perang atau kena serang sebab apa... Kalau Indon serang, sure British cepat sampai... Australia NZ kalau masa konfrantasi dulu dah berkali-kali minta baru data ...
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ya betul..i follow....
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Post time 16-6-2009 02:34 PM | Show all posts

Balas #38 Laxamana.\ catat

mmg lumrah donia macam tuh sekarang nih...assess condition first... pasai tuh ATM mahu self reliance in every aspect.... so that kita tak perlu mengharap sangat pada bantuan dari luar... tapi kalu depa takut nak hantaq angota pon, at least bagi support ngan material pon ok jugak.
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