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You know? perhaps you can educate all of us and tell us why. |
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Originally posted by Debmey at 15-3-2007 10:41 AM
neither is there a Christian only Vatican.
they have muslims only city in mecca and medina.
i wonder why.
Is there any muslims living in the Vatican?  |
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Originally posted by Debmey at 15-3-2007 10:41 AM
neither is there a Christian only Vatican.
they have muslims only city in mecca and medina.
i wonder why.
Is there a muslims community living in the Vatican? |
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Sigh, enough on SG vs MY already, Debbie boy! You wanna have your wet dream of SG vs MY scenario, open a new thread!
The thread has been derailed. Get back to the topic at hand! |
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apa, dia ingat org kita nak nganga jer ka bila tgk depa masuk.......... |
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In any actuality, in a case of using the hostage factor & even to destroy Hezbollah rocket arsenal in order to launch the war, IDF gained nothing, apart from senseless inch by inch fighting on South Lebanon soil.
The invicibility myth of Merkava tanks was busted, ground troops who're mostly civvies concripts suffered battle traumas, despite so called gains ... did IDF achived any of the so-called military objectives of securing back the 2 kidnapped troopers or diminishing Hezbollah missiles supplies?
None.
This is a fricking humiliation to a conventional military force like IDF given its track record in dealing a blows to several Arab states armies in Arab-Israeli wars. IDF can't defeat a well trained entrenched motley crew of a guerilla army ... that's a fact.
Shortly after the dust settled, Hezbollah is still not daunted. Their missiles stocks are not even fully destroyed, at most only 2/5 were used in daily bombardment of Israeli region or discovered & destroyed by IDF. There's reason to believed even those already used or destroyed are now already being replaced & added witrh new stocks. |
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Dubuk, miker perabih jer la menari telanjang depan F-16CD tu, bebudak RSAF gersang tu pun dah lamer tak jumpe gay kat dalam base demer. Tak abih2nyer ngesohkan racism yg kerajaan miker tak bagi melayu masuk RSAF dengan RSN aper heynyer? Kharrkkktuiiihhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!
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Originally posted by Debmey at 14-3-2007 10:22 PM
Thats where you show an acute misunderstanding of both SAF and Msian armed force capabilities.
How can you even imagine we are not capable of doing what we need to do?
You really dunno do you?? Oh well...  |
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Originally posted by rurouni_khairul at 15-3-2007 12:17 PM
Is there a muslims community living in the Vatican?
Maybe, i don't know. Are non muslims allowed to visit mecca and medina like muslims can visit vatican? |
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Originally posted by Robotech at 15-3-2007 12:38 PM
In any actuality, in a case of using the hostage factor & even to destroy Hezbollah rocket arsenal in order to launch the war, IDF gained nothing, apart from senseless inch by inch fighting o ...
hexbohs did littloe damage to israeland the IDF inspite of their daily barrage of rockets. The fear factor of hezbos was busted while hundreds of these hezbo terrorists died and their bunkers busted. |
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Reply #58 Nick_Perelman's post
But its still wrong to plant a fence in other people's territory...
No Jew only areas?? You have to write to Discovery Travel & Living Channel to apologise for that mistake... though the visuals dont show any Arabs in the areas shown... |
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Reply #70 Debmey's post
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Still denying the fact that IDF failed to reach their objective?? Unless of course their objective was to destroy Lebanese civillian townships... |
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hexbohs did littloe damage to israeland the IDF inspite of their daily barrage of rockets. The fear factor of hezbos was busted while hundreds of these hezbo terrorists died and their bunkers busted.
Let's see here ... the rocket barrages kept most Israelis indoors fearing the hell of their lives. The rocket barrages kept most towns & israeli port city paralysed from daily trade & socio activities.
The rockets kept the ordinary Israelis constatly on trauma. The rockets had done their jobs perfectly well.
Hezbollah is not terrorists. They are paramilitary forces that fought to drove Israeli occupation from South Lebanon. They're legitimate organisation under Lebanon law.
Atleast the Hezbollah fighters fought for the sake of defending their lands. What of IDF troopers, who're called in form a civvie to a war to which yield zilch?
You talked about Hezbollah losses. Despite a number guerillas death, the number are far lower compared to innocent Lebanese. Hezbollah recruitment after the war rocketed skyhigh.
Hezbollah military might is slightly bruised, but not mauled. Hell, they paraded their rockets, technical jeeps (jeeps mounted with heavy guns) & rocket mounted jeeps.
Besides, their rocket arsenal should be well replenished by now. Those guys have experience firsthand encounters with IDF regulars. Those are valuable experience in getting those IDF conscripts back to Israel in body bags. |
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Originally posted by mat_toro at 15-3-2007 01:44 PM
But its still wrong to plant a fence in other people's territory...
No Jew only areas?? You have to write to Discovery Travel & Living Channel to apologise for that mistake... though the ...
How can protecting and defending their people be wrong? had the palestinians not commit terrorism, there won't be a wall at all. Responsibility and fault therefore lies on the palestinians. Besides, teh land clearly belong to the jews and not these palestinians. |
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Originally posted by mat_toro at 15-3-2007 01:49 PM
Still denying the fact that IDF failed to reach their objective?? Unless of course their objective was to destroy Lebanese civillian townships...
The jews are too soft. Thats why they didn't reach their objective, not because they did not have the ability.
the hezbos did their best but did not even scratch Israel but got their asses busted and bunkers blown up. What a shame. |
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How can protecting and defending their people be wrong? had the palestinians not commit terrorism, there won't be a wall at all. Responsibility and fault therefore lies on the palestinians. Besides, teh land clearly belong to the jews and not these palestinians.
Had the Israelis not occupying most Palestinian lands, all those thing won't happen.
Who says the Palestinian land belongs to Israelis? Even UN do not recognised the occupied land as Israel rightful hegemony since 1967?
Are you smoking crack or what?
The jews are too soft. Thats why they didn't reach their objective, not because they did not have the ability.
the hezbos did their best but did not even scratch Israel but got their asses busted and bunkers blown up. What a shame.
They're not soft. Look at more than a thousand Lebanese kids, womenfolk, oldfolk that perished in the massive assault.
Look at IDF, got humiliated by amateur guerillas ... the troopers get scared stiffs without the reinforcement from Israeli artys & tanks .. hell, the tankers are even vulnerable.
Like some IDF trooper who says, 'These Hezbollah fight to the death'. Yeah, while most IDF troopers hunkered down amongst tanks column ... & let the Israeli air force do the pounding.
Stinkin' cowards! |
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Originally posted by Debmey at 15-3-2007 02:21 PM
How can protecting and defending their people be wrong? had the palestinians not commit terrorism, there won't be a wall at all. Responsibility and fault therefore lies on the palestinians. ...
It can be wrong when you do it by making a buffer using other people's land... what say you if we built a fence in Geylang?? Didn't you advocated for the UN before?? The UN does not recognise the land the fence was built on as Israeli land... The Palestinians wouldn't have to resort to terrorism if the zionists listened and actually co-operated and kept their word on the many treaties broken before this by the zionists themselves... The zionists gave autonomy but then intensified their incursions into Palestinian homes and became trigger happy plus they even abducted half the Palestinian govt members!! What hypocrisy!! |
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Originally posted by Debmey at 15-3-2007 01:37 PM
Maybe, i don't know. Are non muslims allowed to visit mecca and medina like muslims can visit vatican?
Non-muslim are allowed to enter into Mecca and Medina with the permission of the authority first (Saudi Arabian government) because the National Geographic crew members from the United States once been permitted to enter into the Holy cities, with permission of course.
I personally won't be visiting Vatican City in the near future...why should I? |
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Originally posted by Debmey at 15-3-2007 02:23 PM
The jews are too soft. Thats why they didn't reach their objective, not because they did not have the ability.
the hezbos did their best but did not even scratch Israel but got their asses ...
The zionists failed becouse they're soft alright... they spent all their time shooting at rock throwing villagers when they met someone who actually shot back they haven't a clue what to do... The Hizbullah dont care how much damage they took... you really dont understand guerilla warfare dont you... last time also you've proven yourself ignorant of guerilla warfare... no need to prove it again... |
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Kesian pegawai2 Yahudi tu ena turun pangkat jadi cook sebab deactivate Barak SAM kat Hanit tu....
Five Israeli Navy officers were reprimanded Jan. 1 as part of the investigation into the Hezbollah attack on the INS Hanit, which killed four soldiers during the summer 2006 war between Israel and Lebanon. The reprimand allows the officers, including an electronics officer who deactivated the ship's Barak missile system, to remain in the service.
The Hanit, a Sa'ar 5-class, is one of Israel's most advanced missile corvetttes. The Saar 5-class is outfitted with Barak air defense missiles, along with Elisra's NS 9003/5 ES/EA system and Elbit's Deseaver Kf/IR decoy control and launching system.
The Hanit was patrolling off the coast of Beirut on July 14, 2006, when it was struck by a Chinese-made (and Iranian-modified) C-802 radar-guided anti-ship missile launched by Hezbollah forces. The missile struck near the ship's helicopter pad and killed four sailors.
Last fall, after months of investigation, an Israeli Defence Forces (IDF) committee found that while military intelligence officials said they had told the Navy of the possibility that Hezbollah might have advanced anti-ship missile capabilities, Navy officials said they were unaware of this information. A junior electronics officer, who apparently did not perceive any threat, deactivated the ship's Barak missile defense system, which might have been capable of intercepting and destroying the missile, about an hour before the attack, without notifying his superiors. That officer also shut down the ship's main radar, designed to identify missiles and aircraft, also without notifying his superiors. The report made no mention of the status of the EW systems.
Israel's Navy chief, Adm. David Ben Bashat, told the Jerusalem Post last fall that the Navy's general assessment that there was not a missile threat accounted for the actions of the ship's officers. Admiral Bashat also told the newspaper that other ships in the area had identified the missile as Israeli jets returning from sorties over Lebanon, and said that even if all the Hanit's systems had been functioning properly, the attack could not have been avoided. His account does not explain why the ship's ESM systems would not have identified the threat.
Reprimands were given to two colonels - the head of naval intelligence and the commander of the Navy's Sa'ar 5-class fleet. Reprimands were also issued to the commander of the Hanit, who will be reassigned to headquarters, and to the ship's engine room officer. The electronics officer who deactivated the Barak missile defense system was removed from his post and will no longer be able to serve on naval ship |
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Post time 15-3-2007 11:47 AM
