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Reply #17 gancity's post
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Exactly! MiG-31 do exist though. |
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Sukhoi T-50 PAK-FA
[ Last edited by HangPC2 at 10-3-2007 10:26 AM ] |
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Rupabentuk dah macam f-22 jugak... |
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sekurang-kurangnya ada alternatif lain untuk menhadapi F-22 dan F-35 JSF |
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klu nak compare la,Russia lebih menekankan designing part untuk program pesawatpejuang generasi baru mereka...kita buleh tgk diorang dah mula pkai design yg ada pd fighter US seperti Raptor.Selain tu konsep stealth diorang mcm dah follow US punye,cthnye..bentuk luaran lebih licin dengan mengurangkan sudut2 ganjil.ni berbeza seperti diorangnye rekabentuk dulu..dulu byk sudut ganjil pd design fighter mereka,untuk cover sudut ganjil tu,diorang cat dengan cat penyerap pantulan radar..dah ketandusan idea kot..tapi aku respect n kagun ngan design2 dr Russia, walaupun xbrape cntk compare ngan US tapi perrformance die mmg hebat... |
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Originally posted by BeachBoys at 29-9-2006 04:29 PM
klu nak compare la,Russia lebih menekankan designing part untuk program pesawatpejuang generasi baru mereka...kita buleh tgk diorang dah mula pkai design yg ada pd fighter US seperti Raptor.Selain ...
biar nampak kasar ... janji tahan lasak... |
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Diatas apa yang saya dengar, kapal terbang generasi 5 Rusia yang akan dibuat bukanlah rupa macam F-22 Raptor yang ada didalam gambar diatas. Design yang akan dipilih adalah buatan MiG bukan Sukhoi. Cadangan original adalah untuk Rusia membuat Sukhoi PAK-FA dengan menggunakan wang India. Masalah besar membuat kapalterbang generasi 5 adalah kosnya yang amat tinggi. Tetapi malangnya India tidak mahu kapalterbang besar macam Sukhoi PAK-FA. Mereka sudah ada heavy fighter mereka, SU-30MKI. Yang India mahu adalah pengganti untuk MiG-29, fighter lebih kurang macam F-35 JSF. Jadi Sukhoi akan menumpukan tenaga mereka untuk project SU-35 dan MiG akan JV dgn India untuk pengganti MiG-29. Berita angin mengatakan bentuk MiG baru ini lebih kurang macam Rafale. |
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Yang mana satu J-15 ini? Yang saya tahu adalah projek J-XX. Tapi kalau tak silap saya walaupun Russia memberi peluang bagi Cina membuat JV dgn projek PAK-FA, program J-XX ini adalah program Cina sendiri. Tetapi Cina telah banyak peluang mengkaji dan telah license build banyak kapalterbang Rusia, jadi tidaklah pelik kalau teknologi Rusia juga diggunakan. |
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Originally posted by johngage at 30-9-2006 05:12 PM
Yang mana satu J-15 ini? Yang saya tahu adalah projek J-XX. Tapi kalau tak silap saya walaupun Russia memberi peluang bagi Cina membuat JV dgn projek PAK-FA, program J-XX ini adalah program Cina se ...
XX-J @ J-XX = J-13, J-14 & J-15 |
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NPO Saturn Developing Two Aircraft Engines Simultaneously for Future Fighters
Source: 29.09.06, AviaPort.RU, Correspondent: Dmitriy Kozlov
The Saturn Scientific Production Association (NPO) (Rybinsk, Yaroslavl' Oblast') is developing future aircraft engines simultaneously in two directions, an informed employee at the company has declared.
According to him, the first direction is the upgrade of the AL-31F series-built engine, the second is the creation of a completely new aircraft engines of the next generation.
The specialist noted that the completely new engine is being created for the purposes of installing it on the airplane being developed by OAO Sukhoy OKB, the lead developer on the future tactical aircraft aviation complex (PAK FA) program.
At the same time, the 117S engine being upgraded, as the experts think, will be installed originally on the PAK FA during the creation of the new generation "5+" engine. Besides that, it will be installed on generation "4+" airplanes. "The 117S aircraft engine being created is intended mainly the export variant of the Su-35 fighter and the realization of the upgrade of the Russian air force fleet of Su-27," he specified.
The upgrade is being performed by the successive build-up of the AL-31F characteristics and perfection of its design. "The upgrade of the series-built AL-31F is being performed with maximum consideration of the scientific and technical reserve and the design operating hours on the AL-41F engine which was being created for the multirole fighter under the MFI program," the source said.
The 117S engine was able to raise maximum thrust from 12.5 to 14.5 tonnes in flight tests that took place on an Su-27M airplane (T10M-10). A new fan ((VENTILYATOR)) with the diameter increased from 905 millimeters to 932 millimeters, new high and low pressure turbines, a new digital control system and a vectored thrust system were used on the engine.
((VENTILYATOR also may be translated as "rotor")) |
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News from TsAGI: (to RIA NOVOSTI)
"TsAGI's services are used not only by European aircraft manufacturers, but also by the U.S. company Boeing (which tested its Boeing-767 here), Indian HAL, which tested a model of its LCA light fighter jet, Brazilian Embraer-170 and Embraer-190. Currently the Institute is testing a Chinese aircraft whose name and details are kept secret. The tunnel has been used on four models of the T-50 fifth-generation Russian jet fighter, or PAK FA, which means the advanced system for front-line aviation, and other projects not reported in the press. "All this is evidence," Kargopoltsev said.."..
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any1 hv read March Tempur? the graphic design model PAK-FA MCA very cool and nice looking.... |
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Reply #34 gancity's post
Yeah, I saw it. Very nice indeed.
It says there that the PAK-FA will enter service in 2012. Are you guys thinking what I'm thinking ... :devil: |
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Construction of First Fifth Generation Fighter Begins
The Novosibirsk Chkalov Aviation Production Association (NAPO) has begun construction of the fifth generation multirole fighter. This work is being performed at Komsomol'sk-on-Amur together with the aircraft plant at Komsomol'sk-on-Amur, the enterprise's general director, Fedor Zhdanov, reported today during a visit to NAPO by Novosibirsk Oblast governor Viktor Tolokonskiy.
"Final assembly will take place at Komsomol'sk-on-Amur, and we will be carrying out assembly of the fore body of this airplane," Zhdanov specified. The fifth generation fighter which will replace the MiG-29 and Su-27 airplanes of the previous generation, was developed by the Sukhoy design bureau.
NAPO Chkalov also has been realizing series construction of the newest Su-34 multirole bomber since last year. According to the governor, the oblast's government will adopt a complex of measures for supplemental governmental support to NAPO in the very near future. As of today, the most severe problem at the enterprise is personnel. In the 90s, many highly qualified workers were let go under the conditions of a slump and now time is needed for training new ones. "Our assistance will be in the resolution of personnel questions, and also in the provision of lodging for the enterprise's specialists," Tolokonskiy said in this connection.
NAPO Chkalov is one of the country's largest airplane building enterprises and is included in the Sukhoy Holding Company, ITAR-TASS notes.
Source: 06.03.07, Izvestiya.RU
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Picture: Russian Sukhoi T-50 fighter images emerge
By Vladimir Karnozov
Powerplant maker's website reveals snapshot of possible configuration of fifth-generation PAK FA combat aircraft
Russian engine manufacturer NPO Saturn's website has provided what appears to be a first glimpse of Russia's fifth-generation fighter under development as part of the PAK FA project.
NPO Saturn has been selected to supply engines for the Sukhoi T-50, which won the Russian ministry of defence's tender over a rival submission from RSK MiG.
The simplified image of the T-50 shows it to be a twin-engine design with a classic aerodynamic layout resembling the Lockheed Martin F-22A Raptor. However, its smaller horizontal and vertical control surfaces reflect the fact that the aircraft is expected to use vectored thrust for pitch, yaw and roll control.
The engine nozzles in the picture resemble those of the NPO Saturn Item 117A development engines revealed at the 2005 Moscow air show. Derivatives of the long-serving AL-31F, the powerplants have been redesigned with a new high-pressure compressor and higher-temperature turbine, to support an increase in reheated thrust.
The T-50's high thrust-to-weight ratio, coupled with vectored thrust, are designed to improve short-field performance, including operations from 300-400m (1,000-1,300ft) runways.
Sukhoi general designer Mikhail Pogosyan says the PAK FA falls between the Su-30 and smaller MiG-29, but "closer to the bigger aircraft". This suggests a take-off weight of 25-30t.
It is designed to carry weapons internally and be capable of supercruising (supersonic cruise without reheat), which requires a move away from the Su-30's "integral triplane" configuration to classic aerodynamics better suited to supersonic flight.
Earlier this month the T-50 passed its technical mock-up inspection, says deputy commander of the Russian air force and chief for aviation, Gen Aleksandr Zelin. "The PAK FA must fly in 2012," says Zelin. "The timeframe set earlier remains valid. We are working to complete the work on time."
Sukhoi says it is completing T-50 drawings with a view to producing the aircraft at the KnAAPO and NAPO production plants. KnAAPO will lead the industrial phase, with NAPO a major supplier. NAPO general director Fiodor Zhdanov says his plant will make the nose section. "The airplane will have many parts made of carbon plastic," he says.
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akhirnya nak kuar jugak...  |
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i really do hope the PAK-FA projects comes through..and i strongly support us going into the project seriously if proven feasable.i'm quite confident the project will eventually pull through as a lot of work has already gone into it.
and i bet Russia won't want to be left behind seeing as to how the US and the Europeans are racing ahead with their various fighter projects. |
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Ehem,imej Sukhoi T-50 PAKFA:
Amacam ... cun gak ... |
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Post time 25-9-2006 09:24 AM
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