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BRAHMOS UNTUK NGPV KEDAH & PAHANG?

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Post time 17-8-2006 09:38 AM | Show all posts |Read mode


Ada kemungkinan KEMENTAH akan meluluskan cadangan mendapatkan BRAHMOS buatan India dan Rusia dalam masa terdekat (sumber informasi adalah rahsia :jeling: :jeling: .....Harus diingat, walaupun lulus, beli belum tentu sebab Kementerian Kewangan yang control duit, hehehehehe).

Kalau cadangan ini menjadi realiti, bermakna ini adalah misil/ rudal (bahasa Indo) pertama TLDM berkelajuan supersonic! Mari kita bincang kesesuaian aplikasi BRAHMOS di atas geladak KD KEDAH (171) dan KD PAHANG (172).

Mungkinkah Kelas Laksmana juga akan dilengkapi BRAHMOS?

[ Last edited by  laksmana_tldm at 17-8-2006 09:41 AM ]
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Post time 17-8-2006 09:48 AM | Show all posts
Brahmos ni boleh bubuh dalam capsule pelancar ke utk mengelakkan hakisan laut dan moisture? Saiznya besar dari exocet ke? Berapa biji yg boleh muat atas kapal tu?  Kalau boleh masuk 8 biji jugak dalam capsule, ada bagus jugak la pakai ini bende, supersonic plus 300km range.....terkedu jugak si al-fayed.
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Post time 17-8-2006 09:57 AM | Show all posts
Tak dengar pulak yg TLDM minat Brahmos tapi ada berita dlm internet yg menyatakan salah satu syarat TUDM kepada Sukhoi adalah .... SU-30MKM mesti boleh bawak Brahmos !!!!

Anyway .. Brahmos ini besar gedabak !!!
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Post time 17-8-2006 10:00 AM | Show all posts
dlm majlah Tempur ke Perajurit ader lakaran Laksamana di pasang dgn brahmos....
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Post time 17-8-2006 10:04 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by laksmana_tldm at 17-8-2006 09:38 AM

Kalau cadangan ini menjadi realiti, bermakna ini adalah misil/ rudal (bahasa Indo) pertama TLDM berkelajuan supersonic! Mari kita bincang kesesuaian aplikasi BRAHMOS di atas geladak KD KEDAH (171) dan KD PAHANG (172).


Macamane dgn sistem sedia ada pd kpl kelas Kedah ni, adakah ianya sesuai atau perlukan penyelarasan yg besar?
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 Author| Post time 17-8-2006 10:05 AM | Show all posts
BRAHMOS nie sesuai untuk semua: army-navy-air force. Mmg ada capsule utk navy application. Jumlah untuk dibawa oleh sesebuah kapal/ platform bergantung kepada saiz kapal/ platform tersebut.

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Post time 17-8-2006 10:06 AM | Show all posts
Saya memang antara peminat BRAHMOS. Tetapi nak tanya sedikit:

1) Adakah BRAHMOS mempunyai sistem ECCM?

2) Bolehkah SU-30MKM menggunakanya? Setau saya yang paling besar yang boleh dibawa adalah Alfa.
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Post time 17-8-2006 10:12 AM | Show all posts
pendapat saya Malaysia memang hanya berminat untuk dipasang kat pesawat TUDM saja..walaupun VLS Brahmos sedang diusahakan, bagi kapal2 kita saya rasa tak sesuai kerana sudah serasi dengan Exocet dan akan lebih mudah dan efektif jika kita mengretrofit (sori a DBP) Exocet MM40 block 3 dari pemasangan Brahmos...jika anda ingat dalam pertahanan SAM yang B20 tulis dalm thread misil dia, pesawat TUDM juga sepatutnya berperanan dalam serangan (maritime strike) jarak jauh dengan Brahmos...lepas tu baru kapal2 kita akan take-out unit2 musuh yang masih tinggal dengan exocet kita, itupun jika mereka masih mahu mara..2 sen saya
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 Author| Post time 17-8-2006 10:17 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by mdmee at 17-8-2006 09:57 AM
Tak dengar pulak yg TLDM minat Brahmos tapi ada berita dlm internet yg menyatakan salah satu syarat TUDM kepada Sukhoi adalah .... SU-30MKM mesti boleh bawak Brahmos !!!!

Anyway .. Brahmos ini besar gedabak !!!


Memang gedabak, kuasa pemusnah pun besar ..............kalau hentam 3 ke 5 biji BRAHMOS, Super Carrier USS Nimitz pun bleh tenggelam....
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Post time 17-8-2006 10:18 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by johngage at 17-8-2006 10:06 AM
Saya memang antara peminat BRAHMOS. Tetapi nak tanya sedikit:

1) Adakah BRAHMOS mempunyai sistem ECCM?

2) Bolehkah SU-30MKM menggunakanya? Setau saya yang paling besar yang boleh dibawa adala ...


brahmos versi utk pesawat agak kecik sedikit jika di banding kan dgn versi naval... sebab bahan api atau bahan bakar utk misil tuh dah di kurengkan sebab pesawat dah bawak dier, cuma tunggu masa dan jarak yg sesuai jer utk di lepaskan, kalau versi naval, besar sebab bahagian bahan bakar tuh masih banyak utk di lepas kan dlm jarak yg lebih jauh......
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Post time 17-8-2006 10:19 AM | Show all posts
Aku pun rasa bahawa ATM cuma berminat untuk pasang BrahMos pada SU30MKM..at least leh buat musuh2 negara tu ketaq lutut skit. Ada mungkin untuk NGPV kita tu missile yg lebih sesuai adalah Uran-E, di segi faktor saiz. Takpun, rumour ni keluar pasal nak tekan MBDA untuk beri pakej yg lebih memberahikan kepada TLDM bagi Exocet 40MM Block 3
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Post time 17-8-2006 10:31 AM | Show all posts
kalau amik switchblade apa salah nyer.... adik tiri harpoon tuh....
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Post time 17-8-2006 10:36 AM | Show all posts
SU-30MKM bawak Brahmos

F-18D bawak harpoon block II ... tapi 2 bijik aje le ... yg versi lama ada 20++ kot .



Boeing wins $44M Navy order
St. Louis Business Journal - August 2, 2006
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Boeing Co.'s aerospace division won a $44.29 million Navy contract to provide missiles and warheads to five countries: Chile, Malaysia, Pakistan, Canada and Australia.

The division won a modification to a previously awarded firm-fixed-price contract. Under the order Boeing will provide 28 Harpoon all-up-round (AUR) missiles, which consist of 20 tactical block II airlaunch AUR missiles for the governments of Chile and Pakistan; four exercise block II grade-B AUR for the government of Canada; two tactical block II Harpoon missile body AUR for the government of Australia; and two tactical block II airlaunch AUR for the government of Malaysia.

  
An all-up-round includes the missile, the booster, and the container that protects it and acts as a launch tube.

The contract also includes six warhead sections: four for the government of Canada and two for the government of Australia; 24 MK631 canister AUR containers: 10 for the government of Pakistan, 10 for the government of Chile and four for the government of Canada; six MK992 exercise/warhead containers: four for the government of Canada and two for the government of Australia; and one MK607 airlaunch AUR container for the government of Australia.

This contract combines purchases for the governments of Chile ($15.8 million), Pakistan ($15.79 million), Canada ($7.6 million), Australia ($2.6 million) and Malaysia ($2.4 million) under the foreign military sales program.

The majority of the work will be performed in St. Charles, Mo., with the remainder in McKinney, Texas; Toledo, Ohio; United Kingdom; Huntsville, Ala.; Clearwater, Fla.; Galena, Kan.; Elkton, Md.; Kirkwood, Mo.; Middletown, Conn., and other U.S. locations, according to a release.

Work is expected to be completed in June 2007.

Chicago-based Boeing Co.'s (NYSE: BA) Integrated Defense Systems unit, its largest subsidiary, is based in St. Louis and is the area's second-largest employer.
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Post time 17-8-2006 10:52 AM | Show all posts
so exactly macam aku cakap ler...TUDM guna long range misil dan kapal kita pakai intermediate...
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 Author| Post time 17-8-2006 11:01 AM | Show all posts
Memang logik apa yg kau cakap tu MMC. TUDM lebih berkeupayaan untuk "long range maritime strike" apabila SU30MKM tiba 2007 nanti.
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Post time 17-8-2006 11:01 AM | Show all posts
tat's not way Brahmos install in our NGPV...cz its too big of size... and the NGPV structure not ready for it...TUDM mayb intersted for SU-30MKM...i thk air Brahmos version will be abit smaller...
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Post time 17-8-2006 11:07 AM | Show all posts
Kalau TLDM nak juga  tukar kepasa next-gen missile ... aku harap TLDM pilih NSM !!!!

NSM ni stealth missile ... dari kongsberg.
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Post time 17-8-2006 11:11 AM | Show all posts
Apa tujuan beli 2 Harpoon saja??? Faedahnya??? Ini utk kajian ke???
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 Author| Post time 17-8-2006 11:23 AM | Show all posts
MORE INFO ON BRAHMOS

And now the BrahMos

In-Depth Coverage By Eas Bokhari

India has a potent and highly integrated missile programme which caters for the defence Triad besides catering for an extended range ballistic missile (Agni) for China. Of course Agni can face Pakistan too. The latest entrant in the Indian missile assets is the BrahMos a cruise missile which has been produced with Russian collaboration as a joint venture in India.

It appears that India has a proactive missile programme and India is not jittered whenever a new version of Pakistani missile is launched. As per Rodney W Jones, writing in the Journal of South Asian and Middle Eastern Studies Vol XXV Number 5 Summer 2002, Russia and India have jointly developed a missile, the PJ-10 a variant of the Yakhont which India plans to market as the BrahMos. This missile is a ramjet powered, supersonic, anti-ship cruise missile of about 300 kilometres (km) range. Its payload has not been indicated by Dr Jones. ?he Hindu? of June 28, 2001 carries the same story under the caption ?ussia to Unveil PJ-10 Missile.?

A CRS Report Forthe Congress RL 32115 ?issile Proliferation and the strategic Balance in South Asia? of 17 October 2003 provides some more details about the Indo-Russian nexus as far as ?rahMos? is concerned. The CRS reports says there is a considerable Russian involvement in India? Missile programme. And reportedly more than two-thirds of India? military equipment is from Russia or the former Soviet Union. Some of the analysts believe that India will purchase an additional eight billion US dollars worth of military items from Russia in the decade to come. See ?ndependent? ? London of 5 December 2002 ?utin Brings Offer of Nuclear-Tipped Arms Deal to India.?

It appears that India and Russia are jointly developing the BrahMos anti-ship Cruise Missile (CM). The ?rahMos? which is not presently assessed to be nuclear-capable has a reported range of 185 miles, a payload of 440 pounds, and a speed of more than 1400 miles per hour. See Neelesh Misra India Test Fires a Missile That Could Hit Pakistani Cities  Philadelphia Enquirer-13 February 2003.

The BrahMos is significant and a state-of-the-art missile in that it is considered by many analysts to be a missile which travels at supersonic speed (it is about three times faster than the much trumpeted and used current US ?omahawk? cruise missile. The Americans had used their cruise missile in both the Iraq wars (Gulf wars) and in Afghanistan with telling effect especially in the case of Gulf wars. The ?rahMos?, according to some specialists has been built and incorporates stealth technology which could, according to some analysts, make the missile virtually impossible to intercept.

It appears that both the countries plan to deploy the ?rahMos? with their armed forces besides exporting it to Third World countries ? possibly to offset US military capabilities.

According to Global Security.org. the two-staged ?rahMos? which can be fired from air, land and sea could be modified to accommodate a small nuclear warhead, adding yet another operational capability to India? nuclear arsenal. (Information on the BrahMos deployment is from ?J-10 BrahMos? Global Security.org. available at http://www.globalsecurity/world/india/BrahMos.htm.

While India and Russia have publicly stated their intentions to deploy the ?rahMos? to their respective armed forces by the end of 2003, some military officials believe that they are still several years away from deploying the missile.?

India has long displayed ambitions to become self-sufficient in all areas of modern science and high technology, including atomic energy, aero space, and electronics. India had started its dedicated missile development programme by late 1970s by adopting imported space launch vehicles (SLVs) and air defence missile technology to surface-to-surface ballistic missiles applications.

India has a variety of R&D programmes for air-to-air, air-to-surface, anti-tank and air defence missiles, including unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) and cruise missiles.

It is to be noted that India has acquired some Russian airborne naval and submarine missile systems and related military technologies including some dual-capable ballistic and cruise missile systems such as the SS-NX-27 (P-900 Alfa) which is hybrid cruise and ballistic missile.


SUMBER ASAL:
http://www.globalsecurity.org/or ... brahmos-missile.htm

[ Last edited by  laksmana_tldm at 17-8-2006 11:28 AM ]
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Post time 17-8-2006 11:44 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by johngage at 17-8-2006 11:11 AM
Apa tujuan beli 2 Harpoon saja??? Faedahnya??? Ini utk kajian ke???


test serasi bersama..... heheheh
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