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Post time 5-1-2005 05:50 PM | Show all posts |Read mode
Hi everybody,

Hope that sumbody could help me.(Seribulan & others).i dun understand sum of the statement i've read from novel n sumwhere else..keep wondering y n y..:gila:

I always find people use have had in the same statement.
example; we have had the children taught to swim.
and sum other statement that i could not recalled at this moment.

could anybody clarify me on this & include more examples.
Thanks!


Psst: no Malay, hindi, chinese, Jawa,Banjar words allowed in this topics...only english...tq. (to learn english is to practice more...practice make perfect!!)

[ Last edited by Potpouri on 5-1-2005 at 06:14 PM ]
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Post time 5-1-2005 11:22 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by Potpouri at 5/1/05 05:50 PM:
Hi everybody,

Hope that sumbody could help me.(Seribulan & others).i dun understand sum of the statement i've read from novel n sumwhere else..keep wondering y n y..:gila:

I always find p ...

oopsy daisy...sorry...quite late in answering..
I think this q has been answered b4...asked
by Samurai...:hmm:...
maybe u should refer to the thread Mind ur lg..
below...:hug:
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 Author| Post time 6-1-2005 08:56 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by seribulan at 5-1-2005 11:22 PM:

oopsy daisy...sorry...quite late in answering..
I think this q has been answered b4...asked
by Samurai...:hmm:...
maybe u should refer to the thread Mind ur lg..
below...:hug:


Thanks Seribulan,
but......it's 15 pages down there..means dat i got to go tru every pages..:gila:..
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Post time 18-1-2005 03:38 AM | Show all posts
we have had the children taught to swim


Its past continous. To show that an event that began in the past which had ended in past but is still relevant today.

e.g. I have had the car fixed last week.

It shows that an event that began in the past and had completed in the past which have relevance today.

R6
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Post time 21-1-2005 04:47 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by RainbowSix at 18/1/05 03:38 AM:


Its past continous. To show that an event that began in the past which had ended in past but is still relevant today.

e.g. I have had the car fixed last week.

It shows that an event that  ...

:tq:tq...we have a new sifu now...

errmm...past continuous or perfect aarr???:hmm:
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Post time 21-1-2005 06:01 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by seribulan at 21/1/2005 16:47:

:tq:tq...we have a new sifu now...

errmm...past continuous or perfect aarr???:hmm:


Opps! Its past perfect. Past continous is slightly different. Got my tenses mixed.

Duibuqi.

R6

[ Last edited by RainbowSix on 21-1-2005 at 06:11 PM ]
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Post time 21-1-2005 06:14 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by RainbowSix at 21/1/05 06:01 PM:


Opps! Its past perfect. Past continous is slightly different. Got my tenses mixed.

Duibuqi.

R6

[ Last edited by RainbowSix on 21-1-2005 at 06:11 PM ]

Duibuqi???:stp:

Is it thank you??

It's okay...happy eidul adh...
feel free to assist here...:bgrin:
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Post time 21-1-2005 07:21 PM | Show all posts
Duibuqi???


It means sorry in Mandarin.

Happy Eid to you too.

R6
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Post time 21-1-2005 09:27 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by RainbowSix at 21/1/05 07:21 PM:


It means sorry in Mandarin.

Happy Eid to you too.

R6

ooo...sorry ek...:hmm:

u r a multi-linguist then...
there's a thread on Mandarin here, but no
sifu to help the learners...
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Post time 22-1-2005 01:58 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by seribulan at 21/1/2005 21:27:

ooo...sorry ek...:hmm:

u r a multi-linguist then...
there's a thread on Mandarin here, but no
sifu to help the learners...


Not too much.

I just have a little working knowledge of Mandarin.
A little bit of Spanish and Arabic.

R6
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Post time 22-1-2005 05:58 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by RainbowSix at 22/1/05 01:58 PM:


Not too much.

I just have a little working knowledge of Mandarin.
A little bit of Spanish and Arabic.

R6

Spanish:hmm:hem...none yet on that language...

it is the language used on most telenovellas on tv now??
Rosalinda, Perla n all that...that wud be interesting...
is it similar to Mexico...South American language??
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Post time 22-1-2005 08:52 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by seribulan at 22/1/2005 17:58:

Spanish:hmm:hem...none yet on that language...

it is the language used on most telenovellas on tv now??
Rosalinda, Perla n all that...that wud be interesting...
is it similar to Mexico...Sou ...


The Spanish I learnt has Peruvian dialect. I know some, not a lot though.

R6
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Post time 22-1-2005 10:42 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by RainbowSix at 22/1/05 08:52 PM:


The Spanish I learnt has Peruvian dialect. I know some, not a lot though.

R6

:hmmeruvian...so it's American Latin then...like the one used in
the telenovellas:bgrin:

you should start a thread...for sure many would be interested...
especially all those telenovellas fans...
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 Author| Post time 24-1-2005 02:11 PM | Show all posts
Originally posted by RainbowSix at 18-1-2005 03:38 AM:


Its past continous. To show that an event that began in the past which had ended in past but is still relevant today.

e.g. I have had the car fixed last week.

It shows that an event that  ...


gee thanks R6!

how about had had..i oso found such sentences..i had had..she'd had..

for the example given by R6, instead of using i have had y not we jes say, we had the car fixed last week, right? hehee..like seribulan said,so mind boggling..
:gila:
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Post time 24-1-2005 03:06 PM | Show all posts
i have had y not we jes say, we had the car fixed last week, right? hehee..like seribulan said,so mind boggling..


The reason we use Past perfect tense is to show continuity or relevance today.

e.g  The car has had its body fixed last week, but it is dented again.

       I have had the engine fixed last week, but it is broken again today.

       The children have had learnt to swim at the age of six. (In this sentence it means that the children had finished learning how to swim, and they can still swim today)

Past tense is just to show one event that happened. As you said.

e.g  We had the car fixed.

R6

[ Last edited by RainbowSix on 28-1-2005 at 06:11 PM ]
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Post time 24-1-2005 03:11 PM | Show all posts
how about had had..i oso found such sentences..i had had..she'd had..


Give me the sentence.

R6
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Post time 24-1-2005 06:39 PM | Show all posts
maybe sumthin' like along this line??

e.g.

I had had my tooth pulled out years ago.
She'd had her hair permed twice a year.
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Post time 24-1-2005 09:20 PM | Show all posts
This is also Past perfect tense. The only difference is that there were two events one after another that ended in the past. Its called non-progressive verb.

e.g  I had had the car for ten years before I sold it.

The sentence above shows that u had used a car for a period of time and sold it after in that period of time which is in the past. (ten years ago)

Two verbs which ended in the past.
1) used the car
2) sold the car

R6

[ Last edited by RainbowSix on 24-1-2005 at 09:22 PM ]
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 Author| Post time 25-1-2005 08:55 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by RainbowSix at 24-1-2005 03:11 PM:


Give me the sentence.

R6


sorry R6,
can't give u the sentence becoz i don't understand how to use the grammar..sumtime i jes found it here and there in the novels..
:stp:
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 Author| Post time 25-1-2005 08:56 AM | Show all posts
Originally posted by seribulan at 24-1-2005 06:39 PM:
maybe sumthin' like along this line??

e.g.

I had had my tooth pulled out years ago.
She'd had her hair permed twice a year.


yeah...thanks seribulan..:clap:
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