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Mengapa Atheist Percaya Evolusi Monyet?

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Post time 20-6-2020 01:56 PM | Show all posts |Read mode
Aku ingin bertanya mengapa Atheist mempercaya bahawa manusia itu berasal daripada monyet juga?

Proses evolusi tiada pernah dilihat, maknanya ini tidak saintifik

Bukti2 saintifik juga tiada kukuh membuktikan memang proses evolusi itu berlaku, tiada saintifik

Jikalau unsur2 seperti crossbreeding manusia archaic atau missing link diterima dalam menerangkan kronologi proses berevolusinya monyet kepada manusia moden ini bermakna bestialiti atau hubungan seks antara spesis telah berlaku dan ini amat menjijikkan juga

jadi mengapa Atheist begitu percaya tentang proses yang mereka tiada pernah lihat?

ini sedikit bahan daripada Wikipedia yang boleh dikongsikan kerana semua isi2 yang digunakan mempunyai link rujukan juga

boleh warga2 saintifik Atheist2 di dalam forum ini menerangkan, bagaimana Atheisme itu saintifik jika apa yang dipercayai itu bukanlah sesuatu yang saintifik juga?


Lack of observation[edit]
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Transitional species such as the Archaeopteryx have been a fixture of the creation–evolution debate for almost 150 years.



A common claim of creationists is that evolution has never been observed.[75][76] Challenges to such objections often come down to debates over how evolution is defined (see the Defining evolution section above). Under the conventional biological definition of evolution, it is a simple matter to observe evolution occurring. Evolutionary processes, in the form of populations changing their genetic composition from generation to generation, have been observed in different scientific contexts, including the evolution of fruit flies, mice, and bacteria in the laboratory,[77] and of tilapia in the field. Such studies on experimental evolution, particularly those using microorganisms, are now providing important insights into how evolution occurs, especially in the case of antibiotic resistance.[77][78]
In response to such examples, creationists say there are two major subdivisions of evolution to be considered, microevolution and macroevolution, and it is questionable if macro-evolution has been physically observed to occur.[79][80] Most creationist organizations do not dispute the occurrence of short-term, relatively minor evolutionary changes, such as that observed even in dog breeding. Rather, they dispute the occurrence of major evolutionary changes over long periods of time, which by definition cannot be directly observed, only inferred from microevolutionary processes and the traces of macroevolutionary ones.
As biologists define macroevolution, both microevolution and macroevolution have been observed.[81][82] Speciations, for example, have been directly observed many times.[83] Additionally, the modern evolutionary synthesis draws no distinction in the processes described by the theory of evolution when considering macroevolution and microevolution as the former is simply at the species level or above and the latter is below the species level.[37][84] An example of this is ring species.
Additionally, past macroevolution can be inferred from historical traces. Transitional fossils, for example, provide plausible links between several different groups of organisms, such as Archaeopteryx linking birds and non-avian dinosaurs,[85] or the Tiktaalik linking fish and limbed amphibians.[86] Creationists dispute such examples, from asserting that such fossils are hoaxes or that they belong exclusively to one group or the other, to asserting that there should be far more evidence of obvious transitional species. Darwin himself found the paucity of transitional species to be one of the greatest weaknesses of his theory:
Why then is not every geological formation and every stratum full of such intermediate links? Geology assuredly does not reveal any such finely graduated organic chain and this, perhaps, is the most obvious and gravest objection which can be urged against my theory. The explanation lies, as I believe, in the extreme imperfection of the geological record.
Darwin appealed to the limited collections then available, the extreme lengths of time involved, and different rates of change with some living species differing very little from fossils of the Silurian period. In later editions he added "that the periods during which species have been undergoing modification, though very long as measured by years, have probably been short in comparison with the periods during which these same species remained without undergoing any change."[87] The number of clear transitional fossils has increased enormously since Darwin's day, and this problem has been largely resolved with the advent of the theory of punctuated equilibrium, which predicts a primarily stable fossil record broken up by occasional major speciations.[88][89]
As more and more compelling direct evidence for inter-species and species-to-species evolution has been gathered, creationists have redefined their understanding of what amounts to "created kinds," and have continued to insist that more dramatic demonstrations of evolution be experimentally produced.[90] One version of this objection is "Were you there?," popularized by young Earth creationist Ken Ham. It argues that because no one except God could directly observe events in the distant past, scientific claims are just speculation or "story-telling."[91][92] DNA sequences of the genomes of organisms allow an independent test of their predicted relationships, since species which diverged more recently will be more closely related genetically than species which are more distantly related; such phylogenetic trees show a hierarchical organization within the tree of life, as predicted by common descent.[93][94]
In fields such as astrophysics or meteorology, where direct observation or laboratory experiments are difficult or impossible, the scientific method instead relies on observation and logical inference. In such fields, the test of falsifiability is satisfied when a theory is used to predict the results of new observations. When such observations contradict a theory's predictions, it may be revised or discarded if an alternative better explains the observed facts. For example, Newton's theory of gravitation was replaced by Albert Einstein's theory of general relativity when the latter was observed to more precisely predict the orbit of Mercury.[95]
Unreliable evidence[edit]
A related objection is that evolution is based on unreliable evidence, claiming that evolution is not even well-evidenced. Typically, this is either based on the argument that evolution's evidence is full of frauds and hoaxes, that current evidence for evolution is likely to be overturned as some past evidence has been, or that certain types of evidence are inconsistent and dubious.
Arguments against evolution's reliability are thus often based on analyzing the history of evolutionary thought or the history of science in general. Creationists point out that in the past, major scientific revolutions have overturned theories that were at the time considered near-certain. They thus claim that current evolutionary theory is likely to undergo such a revolution in the future, on the basis that it is a "theory in crisis" for one reason or another.[96]
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George Romanes' 1892 copy of Ernst Haeckel's embryo drawings, often attributed incorrectly to Haeckel.[97]



Critics of evolution commonly appeal to past scientific hoaxes such as the Piltdown Man forgery. It is argued that because scientists have been mistaken and deceived in the past about evidence for various aspects of evolution, the current evidence for evolution is likely to also be based on fraud and error. Much of the evidence for evolution has been accused of being fraudulent at various times, including Archaeopteryx, peppered moth melanism, and Darwin's finches; these claims have been subsequently refuted.[98][99][100][101]
It has also been claimed that certain former pieces of evidence for evolution which are now considered out-of-date and erroneous, such as Ernst Haeckel's 19th-century comparative drawings of embryos, used to illustrate his recapitulation theory ("ontogeny recapitulates phylogeny"), were not merely errors but frauds.[102] Molecular biologist Jonathan Wells criticizes biology textbooks by alleging that they continue to reproduce such evidence after it has been debunked.[100] In response, the National Center for Science Education notes that none of the textbooks reviewed by Wells makes the claimed error, as Haeckel's drawings are shown in a historical context with discussion about why they are wrong, and the accurate modern drawings and photos used in the textbooks are misrepresented by Wells.[103]
Unreliable chronology[edit]
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Illustrations of dog and human embryos, looking almost identical at 4 weeks then differing at 6 weeks, shown above a 6-week turtle embryo and 8 day hen embryo, presented by Haeckel in 1868 as convincing proof of evolution. The pictures of the earliest embryonic stages are now considered inaccurate.[104]



Creationists claim that evolution relies on certain types of evidence that do not give reliable information about the past. For example, it is argued that radiometric dating technique of evaluating a material's age based on the radioactive decay rates of certain isotopes generates inconsistent and thus unreliable results. Radiocarbon dating based on the carbon-14 isotope has been particularly criticized. It is argued that radiometric decay relies on a number of unwarranted assumptions such as the principle of uniformitarianism, consistent decay rates, or rocks acting as closed systems. Such arguments have been dismissed by scientists on the grounds that independent methods have confirmed the reliability of radiometric dating as a whole; additionally, different radiometric dating methods and techniques have independently confirmed each other's results.[105]
Another form of this objection is that fossil evidence is not reliable. This is based on a much wider range of claims. These include that there are too many "gaps" in the fossil record,[106][107] that fossil-dating is circular (see the Unfalsifiability section above), or that certain fossils, such as polystrate fossils, are seemingly "out of place." Examination by geologists have found polystrate fossils to be consistent with in situ formation.[108] It is argued that certain features of evolution support creationism's catastrophism (cf. Great Flood), rather than evolution's gradualistic punctuated equilibrium,[109] which some assert is an ad hoc theory to explain the fossil gaps.[110]


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Post time 5-8-2020 12:00 PM | Show all posts
Evolusi adalah theory.  Ia bukan Law.  
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Post time 11-8-2020 10:21 PM | Show all posts
Edited by Truth.8 at 11-8-2020 10:33 PM

DIA  ---Pencipta ....suka sangat  cipta macam2 benda seperti haiwan-pokok –bunga–manusia  di dunia dan alam lain......monyet dgn sifat dia- babi dgn sifat dia- anjing dgn sifat dia manusia dgn sifatnya...dan lain2
Dlm Bible DIA   mencipta manusia pertama dari tanah....saya rasa lah  manusia pertama yg bernama Adam kulit hitam ...cuba lihat gambar dibawa....
kemudian DIA  menghidupkan Adam dengan hembusan  DIA...maka kita manusia membawa DNA DIA
Jadi, x ada logik monyet ini jadi manusia dan sebagainya...  Sifat DIA : KEBESARAN -KEKUASAN -KREATIF DIA YANG PALING UNIK..untuk kita mengaguminya dalam kebesaran PENCIPTA....





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Post time 5-9-2020 12:44 AM | Show all posts
Itu hanya teory2 sahaja yang kata aties percaya dia dari keturunan gorilla, sebenarnya Aties tak pikir apa-apa pun, yang dia fikirkan perut dan sekk sahaja. Kalau dia orang ni jenis berfikir tentu mereka takkan jadi aties. Ini pun teory saya haha.
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Post time 5-9-2020 12:51 AM | Show all posts
  1. Dlm Bible DIA   mencipta manusia pertama dari tanah....saya rasa lah  manusia pertama yg bernama Adam
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Sama seperti yang tersebut dalam Al-Quran, Nabi Adam manusia pertama yang diperbuat dari tanah lalu dihidupkan dengan memasukkan ROH(nyawa), bila dicabut nyawa manusia akan mati walaupun sedang sihat.

Al-kisah setelah makhluk manusia dicipta Tuhan perintahkan Malaikat Izrail(malaikat maut) sebagai pencabut nyawa manusia, tetapi malaikat Izrail merasa keberatan sebab nanti manusia akan marah kepadanya, kemudian Allah swt memberitahu dia akan jadikan sebab-sebab kematiaan. contoh canser, virus, kegagalan jantung dan 1001 sebab kematian. Yang sebenarnya umur dia sudah habis...
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Post time 21-9-2020 11:46 AM | Show all posts
zamkumis replied at 5-9-2020 12:51 AM
Sama seperti yang tersebut dalam Al-Quran, Nabi Adam manusia pertama yang diperbuat dari tanah l ...
canser, virus, kegagalan jantung dan 1001 sebab kematian. Yang sebenarnya umur dia sudah habis...


Hai zakumis aka kuman...ada sihat kah??

isu pasal canser -virus dan lain...
semua penyakit ini datang dari kesilapan kita sendiri ...sebab

1) makanan tidak atur...bantai aja ..janji sedap..itu hari saya tengok makcik tudung makan roti kaya dgn teh tarik manis...lepas sapu roti kaya..order lagi mee goreng......tabiat makanan yg tidak di atur ini punca  penyakit pada manusia...lebih2 lagi tidak bersenam...

virus dan sebagai boleh di atasi dengan amalan2 lain...sorry saya x dpt share benda kerana ia rahsia ...cuma  manusia terlampau rapat dgn DIA rahsia ini di buka pada seseorang itu..


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Post time 21-9-2020 11:54 AM | Show all posts
zamkumis replied at 5-9-2020 12:44 AM
Itu hanya teory2 sahaja yang kata aties percaya dia dari keturunan gorilla, sebenarnya Aties tak pik ...
Ini pun teory saya haha.


baik punya teory ini...sudah menang grand prize.. :
melancong di negara yg paling  tinggi   virus Covid 19 ....

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Post time 27-9-2020 12:02 AM | Show all posts
Truth.8 replied at 21-9-2020 11:54 AM
baik punya teory ini...sudah menang grand prize.. :
melancong di negara yg paling  tinggi   v ...

hai truth.. rindu kat kau. apa ramalan kau untuk covic19?
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Post time 28-9-2020 07:33 PM | Show all posts
zamkumis replied at 27-9-2020 12:02 AM
hai truth.. rindu kat kau. apa ramalan kau untuk covic19?

Hai zakumis aka kuman...sihat? umur dah warga emas???
aku x  buat ramalan....saya tulis ia berlaku

saya x nak tulis vaks di jumpai sebab dunia dah korupt


ada soalan maut :  cuba teka kenapa saya    tulis vaks dan bukan ayat penuh? ada hadiah misteri kalau jawapan betul

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Post time 29-9-2020 01:36 PM From the mobile phone | Show all posts
Hadiahnya mesti melancong kan.
Lagipun, kalau betul aku punya jawapan mesti kau kata salah sebab kau ada 1000 jawapan lain.. hehe
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Post time 30-9-2020 10:02 AM | Show all posts
zamkumis replied at 29-9-2020 01:36 PM
Hadiahnya mesti melancong kan.
Lagipun, kalau betul aku punya jawapan mesti kau kata salah sebab k ...
Hadiahnya mesti melancong kan.
Lagipun, kalau betul aku punya jawapan mesti kau kata salah sebab kau ada 1000 jawapan lain.. hehe


Kalau jawapan betul saya x konar 2..cuba lah
yup hadiah melancong ke negara Brazil yg kini tinggi covid 19.. hotel 5 star plus.pakage makanan percuma...

1000 jawapan ya? teringat pula hikayat 1000 satu malam ..kisah2 arabiah  hehehe

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Post time 5-10-2020 09:43 AM | Show all posts
Edited by zamkumis at 5-10-2020 09:55 AM
Truth.8 replied at 30-9-2020 10:02 AM
Kalau jawapan betul saya x konar 2..cuba lah
yup hadiah melancong ke negara Brazil yg kini ti ...
1000 jawapan ya? teringat pula hikayat 1000 satu malam ..kisah2 arabiah  hehehe

Kisah arabian night ni adalah kisah lagenda yang benar2 berlaku di zaman dahulu, kisah ini bermula di istana kerajaan abbasiah di baghdad Iraq. Kerajaan abbasiah adalah satu empayar yang luas, disana juga adalah pusat pentadbiran dan ilmu pengetahuan, tetapi kerajaan ini telah musnah diserang oleh kerajaan TarTar hulagu khan utara india. Kerajaan TarTar mahu bersahabat dengan kerajaan Abbasiah, Hulagu Khan telah menghantar 8 orang utusan, tetapi kesemua 8 orang ini dibunuh, akibatnya kerajaan TarTar melancarkan perang yang akibatnya hancur kerajaan abbasian Iraq. Terdapat buku-buku kitab ilmu pengetahuan yang  tidak terkira banyaknya, karangan ulama-ulama islam. Semua buku2 ini dicampak kedalam sungai dajlah sehingga jadi hitam airnya, air dakwat pen. Tetapi sebahagian ada yang terselamat dan telah diambil/dicuri oleh orang eropah, dengan saki baki buku itulah lahirnya ledakan revolusi kemodenan eropah, berbagai2 teknologi yang dibangunkan eropah hasil dari kaji selidik dari buku2 yang diambil dari Iraq. Sehingga hari ini banyak manuskrip2 ulam islam yang disimpan di muzium2 eropah.

Ringkasan:

Zaman pertama:
Orang islam di zaman Abbasiah menulis ilmu2 dan segala macam cabang teknologi, tetapi hanya dalam buku/kitab hasil dari kajian sains dari Al-Quran.

zaman kedua:
Orang eropah mengutip buku2 manuskrip dan mempelajarinya, membangunkan dan mengembangkan teknologi yang tercatat dalam buku2 ulama islam.  

Zaman ke tiga:
Teknologi dari eropah telah sampai ke kemuncak dan eropah sudah malas untuk kembangkannya lagi. Lalu ilmu teknologi eropah dipelajari oleh orang china/jepun/ korea. Dan sekarang kemuncak teknologi eropah berpindah ke asia iaitu china/jepun/kore, teknologi terus berkembang.
Cuba bayangkan, 1/1000% dari buku ulama islam yang terselamat, menjadi sebab ledakan teknologi didunia. Ada banyak lagi buku yang dicampak ke dalam sungai Dajlah sehingga buku2 boleh dibuat jambatan menyeberang sungai. Kalau semuanya terselamat...tak taulah apa akan jadi dengan dunia ini. Semua ilmu teknologi ini adalah percikan ilmu dari Al-Quran. Malah dalam Al-Quran masih menyimpan ilmu2 teknologi yang masih belum pernah diketahui manusia. Hebatnya Al-Quran.


Ini setakat yang saya tahu..sejarahnya lebih atau kurang...hmmm


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Post time 5-10-2020 01:17 PM | Show all posts
zamkumis replied at 5-10-2020 09:43 AM
Kisah arabian night ni adalah kisah lagenda yang benar2 berlaku di zaman dahulu, kisah ini bermu ...
Zaman ke tiga:
Teknologi dari eropah telah sampai ke kemuncak dan eropah sudah malas untuk kembangkannya lagi. Lalu ilmu teknologi eropah dipelajari oleh orang china/jepun/ korea. Dan sekarang kemuncak teknologi eropah berpindah ke asia iaitu china/jepun/kore, teknologi terus berkembang.
Cuba bayangkan, 1/1000% dari buku ulama islam yang terselamat, menjadi sebab ledakan teknologi didunia. Ada banyak lagi buku yang dicampak ke dalam sungai Dajlah sehingga buku2 boleh dibuat jambatan menyeberang sungai. Kalau semuanya terselamat...tak taulah apa akan jadi dengan dunia ini. Semua ilmu teknologi ini adalah percikan ilmu dari Al-Quran. Malah dalam Al-Quran masih menyimpan ilmu2 teknologi yang masih belum pernah diketahui manusia. Hebatnya Al-Quran.


sebelum kedatangan Islam, teknologi-sain dan perubantan sudah advance zaman ..Ancient Civilizations  dan dark ages...itu adalah fakta


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Post time 5-10-2020 06:32 PM | Show all posts
Truth.8 replied at 5-10-2020 01:17 PM
sebelum kedatangan Islam, teknologi-sain dan perubantan sudah advance zaman ..Ancient Civiliza ...

Memanglah..telah ada, tapi tidak advance sangat cuma susun2 batu buat bangunan, siapa pun boleh. Kalau banding masjid biru turki lagi hebat seni binanya.

Dari segi ilmu pengetahuan tidak ada negara yang iktiraf sumbangan ilmuan islam kepada dunia, tetapi sejarah membuktikan. Ilmu anstronomi asal mulanya dari islam, kini dikembangkan terus oleh NASA. Kitab ibnu Sina dalam perubatan moden diajar di university2 eropah selama 600 tahun. Tapi itu semua tidak ada gunanya saya cakap sebab non muslim tak suka dengar walaupun ia benar.  
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Post time 19-3-2021 04:44 PM | Show all posts
Truth.8 replied at 11-8-2020 10:21 PM
DIA  ---Pencipta ....suka sangat  cipta macam2 benda seperti haiwan-pokok –bunga–manusia  di dunia ...

ko rasa?
maknanya dlm bible bahasa arab ko tu tk sebut la kulit adam warna apa

habis tu mcm mana boleh wujud manusia kulit putih

etis2 yakin manusia kulit putih berevolusi drpd cipanzi berkulit putih

apa komen bible berbahasa arab?

https://www.britannica.com/animal/chimpanzee

Chimpanzee, (Pan troglodytes), species of ape that, along with the bonobo, is most closely related to humans. Chimpanzees inhabit tropical forests and savannas of equatorial Africa from Senegal in the west to Lake Albert and northwestern Tanzania in the east. Individuals vary considerably in size and appearance, but chimpanzees stand approximately 1–1.7 metres (3–5.5 feet) tall when erect and weigh about 32–60 kg (70–130 pounds). Males tend to be larger and more robust than females. Chimpanzees are covered by a coat of brown or black hair, but their faces are bare except for a short white beard. Skin colour is generally white except for the face, hands, and feet, which are black. The faces of younger animals may be pinkish or whitish. Among older males and females, the forehead often becomes bald and the back becomes gray.


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