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my-alja

ahaa...that is a problem too ...because my grammar is also "tunggang-langgang"... what shud i do?...

my-alja

ermmm...awat cikgu tak jawab soalan nie

me rasakan cikgu ramai mak/ayah kat luar sana so-so aje BI mereka, tak semua org bernasib baik dapat pendedahan cam mod fly dan mac dimana mak/ayah memang fasih berbahasa...dan persekitaran mereka yg byk membantu...

buku bagus byk tapi teknik dan approach yg digunakan pelbagai...jadi mungkin cikgu boleh turunkan sket ilmu dlm menitikberatkan penggunaan bahasa nie sekiranya ibu ayah bukan native english speaker..

setahu me kan, kalo kita sembang dgn india...depa memang konfiden sungguh cakap english tapi bila dah faham selok-belok bahasa nie...grammar dia alahai, surprisingly mak/ayah tak tahu sepatah pun bahasa nie...tapi anak2 cakap english

DUDAensem

Abang duda rasa lagi tepat kalau Basic English ni di bagi dlm projection of  age categori. Umur sekian sekian, apa penekanan yg betul yg patut diberi dulu, then move from age  4 - 6, 7 - 9 bla bla, baru namapak the module progress ikut kesesuaioan umur & perkembangan minda utk timbulkan minta yg  jelas.

Yang penting belajar bahasa english kena buat in staggered ways, step by step, kalau bagi semua secara general, effect dia kurang berkesan. That's why orang kata kena start dari awal.  Kalau org Cina boleh bercakap 3 bahasa dari kecik, why not org Melayu try 2 bahasa dulu sejak kecik, mmg boleh, cuma kadang org kalau dengar org ckp english ni ada yg ambik sikap negatif, perli , sindir, bila kena sindir terus berhenti ....  .. the attitude again.

macademia

Originally posted by my-alja at 1-8-2007 03:44 PM
ermmm...awat cikgu tak jawab soalan nie

me rasakan cikgu ramai mak/ayah kat luar sana so-so aje BI mereka, tak semua org bernasib baik dapat pendedahan cam mod fly dan mac dimana mak/ayah mema ...

Bahasa Tamil punya grammar hampir sama dengan English punya grammer. PEndekatan dan cara pembelajaran grammer tu la. Itu sebab Indian cepat pick up.

And that is why I suka kalau Indian teacher ajar anak i English......

[ Last edited by  macademia at 2-8-2007 11:33 AM ]

my-alja

Originally posted by macademia at 2-8-2007 11:32 AM



Bahasa Tamil punya grammar hampir sama dengan English punya grammer. PEndekatan dan cara pembelajaran grammer tu la. Itu sebab Indian cepat pick up.

And that is why I suka kalau Indian t ...

cabaran byk lah kat sini mac...anak balik cakap slang memacam ...dia tak cakap "this is mine"...sebaliknya "my one, your one"....mana mangslish yg dia bawa balik nie

anak nie punya school, memang majoriti cikgu india.....hardly to see the progress

my-alja

Originally posted by DUDAensem at 2-8-2007 11:23 AM
Abang duda rasa lagi tepat kalau Basic English ni di bagi dlm projection of  age categori. Umur sekian sekian, apa penekanan yg betul yg patut diberi dulu, then move from age  4 - 6, 7 - 9 bla bl ...

paham duda...tu sebab buku english yg me ada nie, sgt terperinci ikut usia anak2

macademia

Originally posted by my-alja at 2-8-2007 11:37 AM


cabaran byk lah kat sini mac...anak balik cakap slang memacam ...dia tak cakap "this is mine"...sebaliknya "my one, your one"....mana mangslish yg dia bawa balik nie

anak nie punya ...

oh dear, kenapa broken english? Hairan, normally Indian teachers speak good English. (General observation)

My son punya kindy mostly indian teachers,  they speak perfect english. so budak2 ngikut. Now in std 1, my son punya friends mostly Indians, so they speak good and complete sentence, takde my one, your one.

Anak u berapa tahun, maybe u shud do spot check and tgk the teachers mengajar macamana. Or maybe yg culpritnya ialah budak2 lain in the kids yg cakap broken. So anak u yg mengikut.

my-alja

a'ah me dah tanya dgn guru besar...me dapat tahu, mostly indian teachers kat situ dr b/groun sekolah tamil ...jadi pepaham ajelah

plg sedih kalo tanya pasal perkembangan anak2..dia cuma jawab, ur son is gud sebab dia takleh nak elaborate lelebih, vocab limited...

cikgutuition

Originally posted by my-alja at 31-7-2007 09:11 PM
ahaa...that is a problem too ...because my grammar is also "tunggang-langgang"... what shud i do?...

As mentioned earlier you need to get a good and easier to understand Grammar book. So u can refer to the book from time to time to correct your gramar..

Tapi x per kalau grammar masih x ok.Yg penting is to introduce the words in English to them..Vocab is more important then grammar sebab kalau vocab very weak, lansung x boleh nak speak or write in ENglish..Grammar boleh diperbetulkan lagi once dia org dah makin besar n mudah faham dengan penerangan cikgu2 mereka..

DUDAensem

Actually , English n i yg penting keberanian nak bukak mulut and try to converse with confidence. So first step when u teach English, you must give good & enough inspirations for them to be brave to start speaking , kalau tau vocab & grammar tp tak brave pun tak guna, thats why ada org dia good at writing but speaking wise dia tak confident.  Abang duda is a good example, i was a kampung boy yg mmg tak ckp english langsung but im proud to tell i tak takut buat mistake and that was how everything got started.

macademia

Originally posted by DUDAensem at 2-8-2007 02:42 PM
Actually , English n i yg penting keberanian nak bukak mulut and try to converse with confidence. So first step when u teach English, you must give good & enough inspirations for them to be brave ...

VERY VERY TRUE.

Cabaran sebenarnya adalah to make and persuade the child to open his/her mouth and speak the language. Itu yg sebenarnya.

my-alja

Originally posted by DUDAensem at 2-8-2007 02:42 PM
Actually , English n i yg penting keberanian nak bukak mulut and try to converse with confidence. So first step when u teach English, you must give good & enough inspirations for them to be brave ...

setuju bangat....

my-alja

tu ahh cikgu....me perasan dia cam "bosan" kalo byk sgt ditegur part2 grammar tu...

kekadang kena pejam sebelah mata bila dia bercakap...asalkan dia bukak mulut dan cakap

Originally posted by DUDAensem at 2-8-2007 01:23 PM
Abang duda rasa lagi tepat kalau Basic English ni di bagi dlm projection of  age categori. Umur sekian sekian, apa penekanan yg betul yg patut diberi dulu, then move from age  4 - 6, 7 - 9 bla bla, baru namapak the module progress ikut kesesuaioan umur & perkembangan minda utk timbulkan minta yg  jelas.

Yang penting belajar bahasa english kena buat in staggered ways, step by step, kalau bagi semua secara general, effect dia kurang berkesan. That's why orang kata kena start dari awal.  Kalau org Cina boleh bercakap 3 bahasa dari kecik, why not org Melayu try 2 bahasa dulu sejak kecik, mmg boleh, cuma kadang org kalau dengar org ckp english ni ada yg ambik sikap negatif, perli , sindir, bila kena sindir terus berhenti ....  .. the attitude again.

funny thing is, its still happening now....

i just dont understand why.....

macademia

Originally posted by spidernfly at 2-8-2007 04:12 PM



funny thing is, its still happening now....

i just dont understand why.....

Spidernfly, my girls attend a convent school. So paham2la ramai nonmalays and they are exposed to English a lot.

Whenever I accompany my girls pergi competition, I would hear and see students from other schools, mocking them, jeling2 and pandang semacam because they speak ENglish among themselves.

YEs attitude ini memang wujud and attitude inilah yg menghalang students utk lebih maju dalam English.

Dulu kat paper ada a huge discussion on racial integration. And there was a big picture, a malay, a chinese and indian sharing an ice cream. That picture was taken at my girl punya school. Classmates anak i la tu. Mac suka tengok racial integration kat sekolah mereka. Although ada yg stick with their own kind, tapi ramai jugak yg mix around.

Kat sekolah my son lagi la sikit budak melayu. Ada 26 malays aje dalam the whole of std 1. Pagi tadi, masa i hantar anak i, suka pulak i tgk my son tergelak2 dgn another singh, while walking together to the hall for assembly.

tu la dia kan....

as long as diri sendiri tak tukar attitude, selagi tu la takkan maju.

just because we speak english, jgn la sampai cakap we forget that we are malays

macademia

Originally posted by spidernfly at 2-8-2007 04:41 PM
tu la dia kan....

as long as diri sendiri tak tukar attitude, selagi tu la takkan maju.

just because we speak english, jgn la sampai cakap we forget that we are malays

YEla tak ada kena mengena kan.............

Tapi cuba pikir, sekarang ni semua nak anak get good basic in english, last2 kindy yg malay speaking ni gulung tikar. Dont u think so? Unless the parents takde choice due tu takde sapa nak hantar or financial problems la.....

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[ Last edited by  cikgutuition at 7-8-2007 02:43 PM ]

alongee

mer asih...very informative...jasa mu ku kenang

cikgutuition

Originally posted by alongee at 10-8-2007 11:36 AM

mer asih...very informative...jasa mu ku kenang

Alongee,

Thank you for the kind words...