ussopp Publish time 17-12-2013 03:09 AM

A WONDER PONDER TO EVOLUTIONIST

Youll find they did talked a lot in the begining,

by the minutes of 10 and above, they can talk much....

Alhamdulillah....


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Sephiroth Publish time 17-12-2013 09:22 AM

Nice youtube link. {:1_132:}

It is true that one of the major disadvantage of Darwinism is that - the process is not observable in short period of time.

Darwinists claims that changes in DNA occurs over long period of time (say in thousands of years), which accumulate and produces changes over a species - like make Man from Ape and so on. However, they cannot explain WHY the difference between Man and Great Ape is just 2%.

By right, it should be higher percentage. We have less hair than Great Ape, we walk upright, able to understand, build, use and reconstruct tools while Apes are known only to use tool (such as branches which already found in Nature). Apes do not build or reconstruct (break down the tool and remodify it for a new purpose) tools. Also, we have seen examples how experts "teaches" Apes sign-language and stated that this was evidence of Evolution. It is not, it is merely an act of repetition where the Ape performs this signs by associating it with (possibility of getting) reward. FYI - I have never seen anyone teaching wild Apes sign-language though.

Also, Darwinists cannot explain two things which are unique to Mankind - the Mind and the ability to create Arts (like what we found in caves). IF Evolution is what created Man, then we can assume that other creatures will have Mind - which eventually produces communication, technology etc. So far, only Man seems to have a higher level of intelligent and consciousness. Even Dinosaurs which lived for millions of years did not have such high-level Mind, which defies Darwinism. Also, what is the use of Arts? It serves no purpose but yet, we can see early men paint their walls with pictures of animals and activities like hunting. Is it a historical record? IF so, then why doesn't any other animals produce such records? What Darwinist process brought for such process?

Bottomline - Darwinism require faith just like religion, because it too has questions which Darwinists cannot answer.

adi_iskandar Publish time 27-12-2013 12:29 PM

Sephiroth posted on 17-12-2013 09:22 AM static/image/common/back.gif
Nice youtube link.

It is true that one of the major disadvantage of Darwinism is that - ...

your understanding of Darwinism is seriously flawed.

The purpose of evolution is not about who is smarter or who is having highest IQ. Evolution is not a ladder. It is simply about who can adapt to the environment best. Human intellect is not necessarily an advantage to its species. A simple nuclear war can wipe the entire human race. It shows how stupid the human species can be. Dinosaurs are more successful than the humans because they have survived at least for millions of years.

And what rubbish are you talking about arts? Cow also make arts when they fart and sh|t on the grounds.


Sephiroth Publish time 27-12-2013 01:57 PM

by adi_iskandar

Human intellect is not necessarily an advantage to its species.
You are telling me a dumba$$ species can adapt to environmental changes and you are saying MY understanding of Evolution is flawed??? {:1_567:} {:1_567:} {:1_567:}

A simple nuclear war can wipe the entire human race. It shows how stupid the human species can be. Dinosaurs are more successful than the humans because they have survived at least for millions of years.
Dinosaurs couldn't even survive a single rock from space, and you are saying they are more successful? {:1_567:} {:1_567:} {:1_567:}

ussopp Publish time 27-12-2013 03:39 PM

Sephiroth posted on 27-12-2013 01:57 PM static/image/common/back.gif
by adi_iskandar




the way he talked is like he prefer to be animal who live by the flow of nature.....

so supossed he ended up not to think anymore later.....because he may survived longer, maybe


Sephiroth Publish time 27-12-2013 04:04 PM

ussopp posted on 27-12-2013 03:39 PM static/image/common/back.gif
the way he talked is like he prefer to be animal who live by the flow of nature.....

so suposse ...

You talking to me (about Adi) or to Adi (about me)?

ussopp Publish time 27-12-2013 04:08 PM

Sephiroth posted on 27-12-2013 04:04 PM static/image/common/back.gif
You talking to me (about Adi) or to Adi (about me)?

to you about adi laah.....

Sephiroth Publish time 27-12-2013 05:00 PM

ussopp posted on 27-12-2013 04:08 PM static/image/common/back.gif
to you about adi laah.....

He (Adi) is wrong about Evolution.

Physical evolution come first, then the Mind and finally Spiritual. Hindu call the process as Inovation (or internal evolution) - concept that states that physical evolution alone is not what creates the human or intellectual species. When a species reach a certain time when it cannot grow physically anymore, it will evolve mentally (as humans did over 300,000 years ago) and now continue to evolve Spiritually.

Darwinists do not accept such concept and believe intelligent will come soon or later through physical evolution (which is proven false cos dinosaurs existed millions of years and they did not possess human-like intellect - IF they did, they could have found a way to survive after the Event 64 million years ago).

adi_iskandar Publish time 27-12-2013 05:09 PM

Sephiroth posted on 27-12-2013 05:00 PM static/image/common/back.gif
He (Adi) is wrong about Evolution.

Physical evolution come first, then the Mind and finally Spi ...

youre an idiot. the purpose of evolution is not to create the smartest species. you need to get that through your thick numbskull before we can move on with the discussion.

and stop bringing in your pseudoscience of "spiritual" and "conciousness" bullcrap into the discussion. it has no scientific merits.

adi_iskandar Publish time 27-12-2013 05:12 PM

ussopp posted on 27-12-2013 03:39 PM static/image/common/back.gif
the way he talked is like he prefer to be animal who live by the flow of nature.....

so suposse ...

what makes you think the human species are so superior compared to those of cockroaches?

ussopp Publish time 29-12-2013 10:23 PM

we are being advised......in a way.....to be humble to God in a restricted way....
sometimes against our nature....

but those cockcraochesarent, they are followwing God by following the flow of nature...freely

but we are not.... Last edited by ussopp on 30-12-2013 10:47 AM

ibnur Publish time 29-12-2013 10:36 PM

Some of you guys need to google for brachipods and cephelopods .....and you are accusing the other as wrong?

ibnur Publish time 29-12-2013 10:41 PM

Lets go back some post....   Darwinist and Darwinism?Darwinist does not exist anymore....seriously because Darwinism flawed.

If you are still talking about Darwin theory or Darwinist or Darwinism...I think you have to google a lot.

Lets go back to the first post...what is the message of the video...certainly it is not about whether evolution is right or wrong.Let us not drag this into argument about evolution is true or not.

Sephiroth Publish time 30-12-2013 09:35 AM

by adi_iskandar

the purpose of evolution is not to create the smartest species.
And what is the purpose of Evolution?

and stop bringing in your pseudoscience of "spiritual" and "conciousness" bullcrap into the discussion. it has no scientific merits.
Just wondering - Did you read the name of the Column before you post in this thread? Ussop made a thread about Evolution IN a Religion column, NOT Science column. Therefore, to add those "crap" as you call it into the discussion is acceptable in a religion column. If you want a scientific discussion, GO TO SCIENCE forum or column.
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