Why muslims shiver over the idea of freedom of religion ???
Why muslim shiver over the idea of freedom of religion ??? This does not relevant to Malaysia alone but virtually all Islamic countries. Latest warning from DPM of Malaysia, Muhyiddin Yassin only reinforce this allegation.http://www.themalaysianinsider.c ... ddin-tells-muslims/The question now is why ??? Why muslims so scare of competing with other religion when it comes to winning new converts ??? We all know the dreadful consequences and threat muslims will get if they even dare to ponder upon the idea of apostacy and the outcome is even of course more dreadful for non-muslim if they ever attempt to proselyte a muslim.
If we dissect the Islamic faith, an intelligent and logical mind will definitely unearth the answers; it is a submissive faith which can't coexist with the very fundamental concept of liberty in humanity. It is a religion filled with a paedophille's fallacy, misogyny, superstition and violence against the kafir. That's why Islam shiver over the idea of religious freedom because it cannot withstand the scrutiny from any intelligent human being with conscience.
In Malaysia, only muslims are allowed and encouraged by the government to proselyte non-muslim whereas it is a criminal offence to do the vice-versa. There's little wonder why it is impossible for muslims to comprehend the very basic concept of fairness, equality and justice of humanity.
Only weaklings need protection and since Islam need legal protection to protect itself from onslaught of other religion, we can conclude that Islam has very weak spriritual basic (or none !) in their faith and if we examine even closer, it is actually not a faith but rather a Fascism-like ideology which try to dictate the dress code of women and what and how a muslim should eat and shit !Notorious Islamic preacher Zakir Naik once said; "not all Muslims who leave Islam should necessarily receive death sentences, but that those who leave Islam and then "propagate the non-Islamic faith and speak against Islam" should be put to death."
Sources : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zakir_Naik#Criticism
http://ilovezakirnaik.com/misconceptions/a11.htm
See the similarity between Islam and criminal triad organisation ?? If you dare to expose me, you'll die !
Why even a ulama like Zakir Naik so scare of a smart apostates who can think independently and expose the truth??? Divine Truth won't be shaken by words of ordinary joes but not the case with doctrines written by mortal human beings, especially the one penned by a psychotic paedophille from 7th century. Btw all apostates of Islam are smart and intelligent people anyway ! :lol:
Does any religion other than Islam threaten to kill their apostates if they propagate faiths other than their former faith ? No ! But Islam still stick to this barbaric threat even in this 21st century.
Last edited by wkk5159 on 6-12-2013 12:15 PM
by wkk5159
Only weaklings need protection and since Islam need legal protection to protect itself from onslaught of other religion ...
Correction - Other religions (except maybe Christianity) do not launch onslaughts against Islam. Islam is so weak that our basic (non-Muslim) belief can easily over throw this 14th century cult. Correction- Not 14th century but 7th century..... Countries With Worst Religious Freedom Grades Are Mostly Islamic - See more at: http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/countries-worst-religious-freedom-grades-are-mostly-islamic#sthash.IlLk4hze.dpuf
(CNSNews.com) – Muslim-majority countries score worst across a range of measures in a comprehensive new study tracking government restrictions on religion as well as social hostilities involving religion around the world.
The study by the Pew Research Center’s Forum on Religion & Public Life, released Tuesday, found that nearly one-third of the world’s population lives in countries where religion-related government restrictions or social hostilities rose significantly between mid-2006 and mid-2009.
Geographically, the Middle East/North Africa region boasted the largest proportion of countries – 30 percent – where official restrictions on religion increased over that three-year period.
Digging deeper, the 117-page report reveals that countries belonging to the Organization of Islamic Cooperation (OIC) dominate many of the most serious measures tracked at the end of the survey period in mid-2009.
Seven of the ten countries with the highest – that is, worst – grades when it comes to government restrictions on religion were OIC countries – Egypt, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Uzbekistan, Maldives, Malaysia and Indonesia. The other three were China, Burma and Eritrea.
Of the 10 countries on that benchmark index, six are designated by the U.S. government as “countries of particular concern” for religious freedom violations – Burma, China, Eritrea, Iran, Saudi Arabia and Uzbekistan.
A separate index in the Pew report graded countries according to levels of social hostility involving religion. Eight of the top ten countries in that index were Muslim-majority states – Iraq, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Somalia, Indonesia, Nigeria, Bangladesh and Egypt. The other two, India and Israel, have Hindu and Jewish majorities respectively, and large Muslim minorities.
In an index measuring official interference with religious practice, 18 out of 26 countries (69 percent) whose government “prohibits worship or religious practices of one or more religious groups as a general policy,” were OIC members – Brunei, Chad, Egypt, Indonesia, Iran, Iraq, Libya, Malaysia, Maldives, Mauritania, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Somalia, Syria, Tajikistan, Turkey, Turkmenistan and Uzbekistan.
The other eight were Burma, China, Eritrea, Laos, Madagascar, Monaco, Tuvalu and Vietnam.
A grading of countries where conversion from one religion to another is restricted was also dominated by Islamic states, accounting for 25 out of 29 countries listed (86 percent). They were Afghanistan, Algeria, Bangladesh, Comoros, Egypt, Indonesia, Iran, Jordan, Kuwait, Libya, Malaysia, Maldives, Mauritania, Oman, Pakistan, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Somalia, Sudan, Syria, Tajikistan, Turkey, United Arab Emirates, Uzbekistan and Yemen.
The four non-Muslim countries were Eritrea, India, Israel and Vietnam.
Taking the conversion issue a step further, among 13 countries where there were incidents of physical violence over conversions from one religion to another, 10 (77 percent) were Muslim – Afghanistan, Bahrain, Bangladesh, Comoros, Egypt, Jordan, Nigeria, Pakistan, Somalia and Syria. The other three were India, Mongolia and Nepal.
Sixteen out of 26 countries/territories where “religion-related terrorist groups” perpetrated violence that resulted in ten or more injuries or deaths” were OIC members – Afghanistan, Algeria, Azerbaijan, Egypt, Iran, Iraq, Lebanon, Mauritania, Niger, Pakistan, Palestinian territories, Somalia, Sudan, Syria, Uzbekistan and Yemen
The 10 non-Muslim countries were Central African Republic, China, Congo, Ethiopia, India, Israel, Nepal, Philippines, Russia and Sri Lanka. (The report does not provide a breakdown of actual attacks, but in at least some of those countries – India, Israel, the Philippines and Russia – terror activity is largely attributed to Islamist groups.)
Blasphemy, ‘defamation’
The Pew report also examined the issue of “defamation” of religion, tracking countries where various penalties are enforced for apostasy, blasphemy or criticism of religions.
“While such laws are sometimes promoted as a way to protect religion, in practice they often serve to punish religious minorities whose beliefs are deemed unorthodox or heretical,” it said.
It found 21 Muslim countries in that category – Afghanistan, Algeria, Bahrain, Brunei, Egypt, Indonesia, Iran, Iraq, Jordan, Kuwait, Maldives, Morocco, Pakistan, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Somalia, Sudan, Tajikistan, Turkey, Western Sahara and Yemen.
The study also found 23 non-Muslim countries where penalties are enforced for such criticism of religion – Austria, Brazil, Burma, El Salvador, Ethiopia, France, Germany, Greece, Honduras, Iceland, India, Italy, Malta, Mauritius, Netherlands, Poland, Romania, Russia, Samoa, Singapore, Spain, Sweden and the United Kingdom.
“Eight-in-ten countries in the Middle East-North Africa region have laws against blasphemy, apostasy or defamation of religion, the highest share of any region,” it said. “These penalties are enforced in 60 percent of the countries in the region. In Europe, nearly four-in-ten countries (38 per cent) have such laws and nearly a third (31 per cent) actively enforces them.”
The report did not, however, draw a distinction between the types of penalties enforced in Muslim and non-Muslim countries for breaching these laws.
A study by Human Rights First, released last March, documented more than 70 cases in 15 countries where the enforcement of blasphemy laws resulted in problems of various kinds since 2007.
Of the 70 cases, only four were not in Muslim countries. They were in Austria (where a woman was fined for “denigrating” Islam during a lecture); India (where nine people were charged over a magazine article said to have injured the sentiments of Hindus);Sri Lanka (where a convert from Buddhism to Islam was accused of offending Buddhism); and Poland (where a provocative rock star was accused of insulting religious sentiments in the predominantly Catholic country).
By contrast, the vast majority of the cases documented in the report took place in Islamic countries – Afghanistan, Bangladesh, Egypt, Indonesia, Iran, Jordan, Malaysia, Nigeria, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia and Sudan – and included lengthy prison terms and the imposition of the death penalty, as well as extrajudicial retribution such as mob attacks and killings.
‘Repressive’
One country that did not feature in the Pew survey’s country scores was North Korea – not because it is not a problem, but because of difficulties obtaining accurate information in the reclusive Stalinist state.
“The sources clearly indicate that the government of North Korea is among the most repressive in the world with respect to religion as well as other civil liberties,” the report said. “But because North Korean society is effectively closed to outsiders, the sources are unable to provide the kind of specific and timely information that the Pew Forum coded in this quantitative study.”
The religious freedom advocacy group Open Doors has listed North Korea at No. 1 on its annual World Watch List of countries most hostile to Christians for the past nine consecutive years.
The rest of the top 10 on its 2011 list were Iran, Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, Somalia, Maldives, Yemen, Iraq, Uzbekistan and Laos. Apart from communist Laos, all are OIC member-states.
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wkk5159 posted on 6-12-2013 04:20 PM static/image/common/back.gif
Countries With Worst Religious Freedom Grades Are Mostly Islamic - See more at: http://www.cnsnews.c ...
Ha ha , you guys ever notice something? When 'truth.8' stops , in comes 'wkk5159'. These 2 have an ongoing agreement , just to provoke muslims with recycled garbage over and over again.
Lets see the arguments
- muslims shiver at the idea of apostacy
Little do these evangelists know that Islam is the fastest growing religion in their own backyard. Take Great Britain for example
A new analysis of the 2011 census shows that a decade of mass immigration helped mask the scale of decline in Christian affiliation among the British-born population – while driving a dramatic increase in Islam, particularly among the young.
It suggests that only a minority of people will describe themselves as Christians within the next decade, for first time.
Meanwhile almost one in 10 under 25s in Britain is now a Muslim.
Wonder why should we muslims be afraid of when in 50 years time , muslims would be a strong political force in Europe and probably in the US.
- pedophilia
Ha ha , this is just recycling garbage. Have been proven via academic studies that this has been a practice in the western world till the beginning of the last century. This is what we call the fallacy of presentismYet presentism besets us in two different ways: (1) the tendency to interpret the past in presentist terms; and (2) the shift of general historical interest toward the contemporary period and away from the more distant past.
Presentism, at its worst, encourages a kind of moral complacency and self-congratulation. Interpreting the past in terms of present concerns usually leads us to find ourselves morally superior; the Greeks had slavery, even David Hume was a racist, and European women endorsed imperial ventures. Our forbears constantly fail to measure up to our present-day standards. This is not to say that any of these findings are irrelevant or that we should endorse an entirely relativist point of view.
- misogyny
Ha ha , 1500 years ago , Islam has provided divorce powers to be with the women upon good grounds. The system of alimony was introduced by Islam while for Christians , it is written in their bible that divorce is not allowed (but polygny allowed) and upon divorce , the women get nothing but kicked out of the house.
- violence against kafirs
Hmm , every historian worth their salt knows about the conquest of Christians and their bloody history. De we need any history lessons?
This is interesting for everyone.
The word kafir does not mean infidel. It means
This means ‘to cover or conceal something
or
to ‘be unthankful.’
Alternatively for 'kafir'Generally a Christian or Jew is not identified as a kafir but they are known respectfully as Ahlul kitab
Therefore, a kafir can be more correctly defined as someone who 'rejects submission to God' even though he is fully aware of His existence
However the source of the word 'infidel' is a term used by Christians to describe muslims ~ from the 15th century
mid-15c. (adjective and noun), from Middle French infidèle, from Latin infidelis "unfaithful, not to be trusted," later "unbelieving," from in- "not, opposite of" (see in- (1)) + fidelis "faithful" (see fidelity). In 15c. "a non-Christian" (especially a Saracen)
We can now see how rude and brash these christians are.
wkk5159 posted on 6-12-2013 04:20 PM static/image/common/back.gif
Countries With Worst Religious Freedom Grades Are Mostly Islamic - See more at: http://www.cnsnews.c ...
BTW , the following is a video by a christian (urging christians to wake up and share the gospels)
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If the numbers are true , like I stated , no reason for muslims to worry. We will be a political force in 30 - 50 yrs
Last edited by sam1528 on 6-12-2013 11:34 PM
Muslim population growth.....:lol:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muslim_population_growth
Testimony of ex-muslims;
"We are ex-Muslims. Some of us were born and raised in Islam and some of us had converted to Islam at some moment in our lives. We were taught never to question the truth of Islam and to believe in Allah and his messenger with blind faith. We were told that Allah would forgive all sins but the sin of disbelief (Quran 4:48 and 4:116). But we committed the ultimate sin of thinking and questioned the belief that was imposed on us and we came to realize that far from being a religion of truth, Islam is a hoax, it is hallucination of a sick mind and nothing but lies and deceits.".....:lol:
http://www.apostatesofislam.com
QUOTES OF FAMOUS THINKERS ON ISLAM
MARCO POLO (WORLD TRAVELLER)
“. The law which their prophet Mohamed has given to muslims isthatany harm done to any onewho does not accept their lawandany appropriation of his goods, is no sin at all”.
JOHN QUINCY ADAMS (U.S. PRESIDENT)
”THE ESSENCE OF MOHAMMED’S DOCTRINE WAS VIOLENCE ANDLUST: TO EXALT THE BRUTAL OVER THE SPIRITUAL PART OF HUMAN NATURE”.
PROFBERTRAND RUSSELL(PHILISOPHER) “Overa billion people believe in Allah without truly knowing what Allahsupposedly stands for or what he really demands of them. And theminority that do understand continue to be Moslems because they haveredefined their morality and ethics to fit within the teachings ofIslam, which are floridly lacking in morality. They thereforeredefine what is good and evil in order to fit their lives into whatis preached by Islam, instead of examining Islam to see if it fitswithin the good life. Backwards thinking, imposed by a backwardreligion”.
SIR WINSTONCHURCHILL (BRTI PRIME MINISTER)Churchill,W - The River War 1899:
"How dreadful are the curses whichMohammedanism lays on its votaries! Besides the fanatical frenzy,which is as dangerous in a man as hydrophobia in a dog, there is thisfearful fatalistic apathy. Improvident habits, slovenly systems ofagriculture, sluggish methods of commerce, and insecurity of propertyexist wherever the followers of the Prophet rule or live. A degradedsensualism deprives this life of its grace and refinement; the nextof its dignity and sanctity. The fact that in Mohammedan law everywoman must belong to some man as his absolute property - either as achild, a wife, or a concubine - must delay the final extinction ofslavery until the faith of Islam has ceased to be a great power amongmen.”
ALEXIS DE TOCQVILLE(FRENCH THINKER/HISTORIAN)“Istudied the Kuran a great deal … I came away from that studywith the conviction that by and large there have been few religionsin the world as deadly to men as that of Muhammed”
EARNESTRENAN(FRENCH THINKER)
“Muslimsarethe first victims of Islam. Many times I have observed in mytravels that fanaticism comes from a small number of dangerous menwho maintain others in the practice of this religion by terror. Toliberate the Muslim from his religion is the best service that onecan render him”.
WILL DURANT(U.S. HISTORIAN)
“TheIslamic conquest of India is probably the bloodiest story in history.It is a discouraging tale, for its evident moral is that civilizationis a precious good, whose delicate complex of order and freedom,culture and peace, can at any moment be overthrown by barbariansinvading from without or multiplying within.”
KONRERAADELST(BELGIAN HISTORIAN)
“TheMuslim conquests, down to the 16th century, were for the Hindus apure struggle of life and death. Entire cities were burnt down andthe populations massacred, with hundreds of thousands killed in everycampaign, and similar numbers deported as slaves. Every new invadermade (often literally) his hills of Hindus skulls. As a contributionto research on the quantity of the Islamic crimes against humanity,we may mention that the Indian (subcontinent) population decreased by80 million between 1000 (conquest of Afghanistan) and 1525 (end ofDelhi Sultanat)”
POPEBENEDICT/BYZANTINE EMPEROR PALEOGUS
"Showme just what Prophet Muhammad brought that was new, and there youwill find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spreadby the sword the faith he preached.”
BRIGGITEGABRIEL (WRITER)
“Islamicsocieties are suffocated by shackles around the human spirit andbrain. Islamic theology is driven by machoism, dominance,intolerance, submission and violence to all that disagrees withIslam’s principles of law”:
DR.KHUSHWANT SINGH (PROFESSOR) “Themost successful lecherous man who used religion for his personal gainis Prophet Mohammed. Islam isa cult with it’s completeirrational belief in Allah created byMuhammed who was a liar,thief, murderer and rapist till his last breath”.
Dr.R.BRAHAMCHARI (PHYSICIST).”Allah is a cruel tyrant, a barbaric killer and a violent despot .Islamic Umma is the biggest criminal gang on earth and Allah isleader and guide of that criminal gang and is trying to establishhimself as the God of the world (not of the universe) with the helpof the mujahidin through terror and bloodshed”.
Dr.B.R.AMBEDKAR ( THE FATHER OF INDIAN CONSTITUTION)
“Islamis a false and dangerous way of living”.
ISLAM LABELED AS THE MOST BACKWARD ORGANIZED RELIGION IN THE MODERN WORLD!!!!!......:lol:
Wonder why they block the website http://www.inthenameofallah.org
Dec 29, 2012 - Islam.... and will be continued to be the most backward religion in future..........www.topix.com/forum/religion/islam/TNU6JML42L9LE6RAT
:lol:;P
There are 2 kinds of forumers here i don't attend to;
1. Delusional pathological liar
2. Ultimate imbecile
Does the above descriptions perfectly befit characteristic of one religion ??? :lol::lol:;P wkk5159 posted on 7-12-2013 09:17 AM static/image/common/back.gif
There are 2 kinds of forumers here i don't attend to;
1. Delusional pathological liar
2. Ultimate imbecile
Does the above descriptions perfectly befit characteristic of one religion ??? http://mforum.cari.com.my/static/image/smiley/default/lol.gifhttp://mforum.cari.com.my/static/image/smiley/default/lol.gifhttp://mforum.cari.com.my/static/image/smiley/default/titter.gif
Ha ha , this is just too easy.
The point here is that why should we muslims worry. We will be a political force in 30 - 50 years time. The one who is worried are people like you.
Ha ha , quotes of (in)famous people on Islam? Yeah-yeah , made up quotes from 'faithfreedom'. Too bad for you the reverts to Islam far outstrip conversion to christianity or any other religions. This shows that when people investigate Islam thoroughly , there is only 1 outcome , they become muslims. Facts / numbers don't lie. However , lying is a way of life for you.
This shows that when people investigate Islam thoroughly , there is only 1 outcome , they become muslims.........:lol:
Yea sure, with more and more muslims in the likes of .......
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Muslims can keep as many of these garbages they wish and they can keep the changes......:lol:
wkk5159 posted on 7-12-2013 06:17 PM static/image/common/back.gif
This shows that when people investigate Islam thoroughly , there is only 1 outcome , they become mus ...
Ha ha , in the same vein - christians like :
http://truth-saves.com/images/hitler.jpg
http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m19d0ky7iw1qeu6ilo1_250.jpg
http://www.biography.com/imported/images/Biography/Images/Profiles/J/Jim-Jones-10367607-1-402.jpg
You are running away from the issue you brought up. What have we muslims to fear? We will become a dominant political force in 50 yrs time. Christianity is declining day by day. Only Christians bigots like you are in fear of such.
Muslim Brotherhood & HitlerMuslim Brotherhood was founded in Egypt in 1928 by a 22-year old Muslim named Hassan al-Banna, who admired Adolf Hitler's hatred of the Jews and persistently wrote to Hitler to express his admiration for Hitler, as well as his desire for collaboration with Hitler's Nazi Party.
http://www.billionbibles.org/photos/Haj-Amin-al-Husseini-and-Adolf-Hitler.jpgWhen Hitler rose to power, his Nazis supported al-Banna, a school teacher, to grow the Muslim Brotherhood into its ally in the Middle East; by 1938, the membership of Muslim Brotherhood topped 200,000.
During World War II, members of the Muslim Brotherhood spied for Hitler's Nazis in the Middle East and fought for Hitler as Nazi troops in two specially formed Muslim Waffen-SS Handschar Divisions ('Handschar' is German for scimitar, the curved saber used by the Muslim troops of the Ottoman empire).
http://www.billionbibles.org/photos/SS%20Handschar%20Division%20Mufti.jpgAbove is Hitler with Haj Amin al-Husseini, the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem and a close ally of al-Banna, in Berlin, where he lived as Hitler's VIP guest from 1941 to 1945, before joining al-Banna in Egypt in 1946. The Muslim Nazi troops of theWaffen-SS Handschar Divisions are being reviewed by Haj Amin al-Husseini (right) and by the SS Reichsfuhrer Heinrich Himmler (below).
Due to the large number of Muslim volunteers, the HandscharDivisions were the largest of Hitler's 38 Waffen-SS divisions.
http://www.billionbibles.org/photos/SS%20Handzar%20Division%20Himmler.jpgAfter World War II, the Muslim Brotherhood continued to grow, supported this time by the West, which saw it as a counterweight to the threat of Soviet-backed communism in the Middle East. By the late 1940s, Muslim Brotherhood numbered 500,000 members.
While some of them built schools and medical clinics, other continued to engage in violence, including bombings, arsons and murders. In 1948, members of the Muslim Brotherhood assassinated the Egyptian Prime Minister Mahmoud Fahmi al-Nuqrashi and participated in the invasion of the newly re-created nation of Israel.
http://www.billionbibles.org/photos/Hamas%20Nazi%20Salute.jpgThe Muslim Brotherhood's violent conflict with the Egyptian government, which also included the government's assassination of al-Hanna and two failed Muslim Brotherhood assassination attempts on the Egyptian President Gamal Abdel Nasser, eventually led to many of its leaders being jailed while others fled and established branches abroad, mostly in the other Middle Eastern Arab nations but also in Europe,UK and USA.
http://www.billionbibles.org/photos/god-bless-hitler.jpgConcluding that it did not yet have the muscle to spread Islam by force, Muslim Brotherhood 'officially' renounced violence in the 1970s, and switched to more cunning strategies detailed in its secret internal manifesto: "The Project".
In 1979, Western powers supported the Muslim Brotherhood to form the Mujahedeen army and fight the Soviet army in Afghanistan.
In 1987, Muslim Brotherhood in Israel created Hamas, whose members still use the Nazi salute (above)and read Hitler's Mein Kampf, which the Muslim Brotherhood titled, My Jihad,and translated into Arabic in the 1930s (Mein Kampf remains the #6 best-seller today in the Muslim world and a favorite among the members of Muslim Brotherhood).
In 1989, the Muslim Brotherhood's Mujahedeen army pushed the Soviet army out of Afghanistan and then split. One of the factions became Al Qaeda, led by a Muslim Brotherhood-schooled Saudi named Osama bin Laden.
Little wonder why muslims adore Hitler so much....:lol:
http://www.billionbibles.org/photos/god-bless-hitler.jpg
wkk5159 posted on 7-12-2013 08:03 PM static/image/common/back.gif
Little wonder why muslims adore Hitler so much....
Ha ha , this again shows that you are so ignorant of history. Christian bigotry has fried your brains.
Hassan Banna established the Muslim Brotherhood ~ 1928 when Hitler was struggling to establish his political career. The Nazi Party won only 12 seats in the elections of the said year. How did you come up with the following statement
Muslim Brotherhood was founded in Egypt in 1928 by a 22-year old Muslim named Hassan al-Banna, who admired Adolf Hitler's hatred of the Jews and persistently wrote to Hitler to express his admiration for Hitler, as well as his desire for collaboration with Hitler's Nazi Party.Ha ha , again I have caught you in trying to lie. This is the problem of people like you who copy paste without any critical thinking. This is so embarrassing for you.
Of course the Egyptians were against the British in WW2. The British where their colonial masters.
Ha ha , the 'Hitler' salute? Now we have
- the EDL comprising of Christian Bigots like you
http://www.indymedia.org.uk/images/2012/10/501677.jpg
- the Catholic Bishops
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/imagenes_vaticano/vatican46_22.jpg
- the Golden Dawn
http://www.islamophobia-watch.com/storage/Golden%20Dawn%20salute.jpg?__SQUARESPACE_CACHEVERSION=1337368171740
- the Ku Klux Clan
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_PYVKD31RPFs/R2g9afr6rZI/AAAAAAAAAQ8/6DPGWT6HUX0/s400/kkk3.jpg
Wow , a lot of Christian groups with the Nazi Salute. Can I conclude that being Christians you guys are just continuing the tradition and beliefs of Hitler?
Oops , a placard with 'God Bless Hitler'. Anybody with half a brain know its just a cut and paste job. Does this mean that people like you have less than half a brain?
You still have not answered me. Why should we muslims fear the so called proselytization by Christians? Facts show that we muslims will have political power in 50 yrs time. All we muslims need to do is to be patient. Thats all , nothing more.
Hi Wikkity...http://www.entropiaplanets.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/gangnamstyle.gif
Freedom of religion is not an 'idea'
it is in the Quran verse 2:225
Let there be no compulsion in religion
Truth(not w/numbers) stands out clear from Error.
You can say the government
and maybe most of the muslims...ofkos. Question:Does Islam prescribe the death penalty for Muslims who wish to embrace another religion?
Summary Answer:
Those who turn their back on Islam are to be executed.This is confirmed by the words and deeds of Muhammad.The only freedom of belief in Islam is the freedom to become Muslim.
The lame answer in Quran 2:225 is meaningless when one consider the following verses in Quran;
The Qur'an:
Qur'an (4:89) - "They wish that you should disbelieve as they disbelieve, and then you would be equal; therefore take not to yourselves friends of them, until they emigrate in the way of God; then, if they turn their backs, take them, and slay them wherever you find them; take not to yourselves any one of them as friend or helper."
Qur'an (9:11-12) - "But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due, then are they your brethren in religion. We detail Our revelations for a people who have knowledge. And if they break their pledges after their treaty (hath been made with you) and assail your religion, then fight the heads of disbelief - Lo! they have no binding oaths - in order that they may desist."
Other verses that seem to support the many Hadith demanding death for apostates are Qur'an verses2:217, 9:73-74,88:21,5:54, and 9:66.