if u watch this...u will accept GOD of Bible
tQ2siBiKS-cDespite the claim that the Bible is an extraordinary book, you cannot run away from the fact that the Bible has errors. Errors indicate flaws and flaws lead to confusion.
Psalm 18:30
As for God, his way is perfect; the word of the LORD is flawless. He is a shield for all who take refuge in him.His way is perfect, anything that has flaw is clearly not from God.
1 Corinthians 14:33
For God is not the author of confusion but of peace, as in all the churches of the saints.
Flaws lead to confusion, and God is not the author of confusion.
Per above biblical evidences, can we still say that the Bible is 100% words of God?
mashimaru83 posted on 25-11-2013 08:33 PM static/image/common/back.gif
Despite the claim that the Bible is an extraordinary book, you cannot run away from the fact that th ...
David is overwhelmed. He sees himself as a drowning man engulfed by the waves. He faces death at Saul’s hands. He is pursued by his enemies. He has lost friends and family. He is alienated from everyone. He is alone. This picture of being overwhelmed is one that was described to me recently on a visit to Beirut, where I chaired a meeting of Barnabas Fund’s Syrian Church Leaders Advisory Council. The leaders spoke of the conditions facing Christians in Syria, of being overwhelmed, drowned, reaching the very depths. Yet, two and a half years ago Christians in the Middle East, together with secular Muslims and others, had had great hope. The Arab Spring, as it was called, promised much. However, the Islamists (followers of political Islam) very soon took control: in Egypt and Tunisia by the ballot box, but elsewhere through a process of subversion and violence.
In Egypt the Christians found themselves gradually sinking, and many felt overwhelmed to the point of despair. As one Christian leader wrote, it was a revolution hijacked. In Syria, a bitter conflict soon developed, which has now left more than 100,000 dead, with total casualties estimated at 350,000. More than 1.6 million Syrians are refugees in other countries, and more than 4.2 million are displaced within the country. Aleppo, a great and ancient city, is being systematically destroyed, its Christians beleaguered and defenceless. For Syrian Christians at this time there is nothing but despair.
Yet, change can come. On 3 July Egypt’s President Morsi was overthrown; the Islamists lost control in Egypt, and now they are fragmenting and increasingly resorting to violence. The force that was shaping not just Egypt and the Middle East but the world – radical, political Islam – is now facing internal conflict and rejection by many who do not want to live under a religious state that controls every aspect of their lives. And so great changes have been made in Egypt, changes that are themselves producing grave instability. Sadly, not so in Syria.
As David sinks to the bottom of the sea, he cries out to God. The same God who had revealed Himself at Sinai in earthquake, thunder, lightning and smoke (Exodus 19:16-18) and who had swept back the waters to expose the seabed so that His people could be saved from their enemies (Exodus 14:21) now saves David from the waters (v. 16).
God’s way is perfect (v. 30), as David came to understand: perfect in His understanding, perfect in His timings and intervention, perfect in all His doings. The Arab Spring turned into an Islamist summer with the prospect of a Christian autumn, leading potentially to a Christian winter. But God is perfect. He holds His people in His hands. He will watch over and protect them. He will fulfil His purposes for them.
It is not force of circumstance that ultimately determines events. It is not the machinations of humans. It is not the rulers of the world. It is not the devices of their enemies. It is not the destructive powers of Satan. But it is God, whose way is perfect, and who will fulfil His purposes for His people.
In this edition of Barnabas Aid, we are including resources for Suffering Church Action Week, which will focus on the next generation, the young. As God took up David as a young boy and trained his hands for battle (v. 34) so we are prioritising today’s Christian children and youth, who will later be entering a battle that will be both grave and severe, whose hands need to be trained for this, their minds equipped and their trust in Him firmly established. For this conflict is essentially a spiritual conflict, which must be fought with spiritual weapons of faith, of prayer, of righteousness.
God’s people often have to undergo terrifying experiences, which fill them with despair at the time, from which there seems to be no escape. Yet when the Lord has brought them out, preventing the waters from overwhelming them or the fi re from burning them, they can reflect on God’s flawless and marvellous doings, His perfect way, His perfect Word and His perfect power (v. 30).
Truth.8 posted on 25-11-2013 10:36 PM static/image/common/back.gif
David is overwhelmed. He sees himself as a drowning man engulfed by the waves. He faces death at S ...
I don't know what you were trying to say in relation to the topic. My question still stand:
Per biblical evidence, can we still say that the Bible is 100% words of God?
Orang Islam tetap akan sembah Allah yang disebut dalam al-Quran bila Allah sendiri kata dalam al-Quran seperti berikut :
Katakanlah : “Tuhanku ialah Allah Yang Maha Esa; Allah Yang menjadi tumpuan sekalian makhluk untuk memohon sebarang hajat; Ia tiada beranak, dan Ia pula tidak diperanakkan; Dan tidak ada sesiapapun yang serupa denganNya”. (Al-Ikhlas : 1-4)
Maka kita tak perlulah melakukan syirik kepada Allah iaitu menduakan Allah dengan mahkluk Allah bila tak adanya Tuhan lain selain dari Allah YANG SATU. Allah berkata :
Dan Allah berfirman : “Janganlah kamu bertuhankan dua tuhan, kerana sesungguhnya Tuhan itu hanyalah Tuhan yang satu; maka kepada Akulah sahaja hendaknya kamu gerun gementar. (Al-Nahl : 51)
Dan (ingatlah) ketika Allah berfirman: “Wahai Isa ibni Maryam! Engkaukah yang berkata kepada manusia: `Jadikanlah daku dan ibuku dua tuhan selain dari Allah? ‘ ” Nabi `Isa menjawab: “Maha Suci Engkau (wahai Tuhan)! Tidaklah layak bagiku mengatakan sesuatu yang aku tidak berhak (mengatakannya). Jika aku ada mengatakannya, maka tentulah Engkau telah mengetahuinya. Engkau mengetahui apa yang ada pada diriku, sedang aku tidak mengetahui apa yang ada pada diriMu; kerana sesungguhnya Engkau jualah Yang Maha Mengetahui perkara-perkara yang ghaib. (Al-Maidah : 116)
"Kalau ada di langit dan di bumi tuhan-tuhan yang lain dari Allah, nescaya rosaklah pentadbiran kedua-duanya. Maka (bertauhidlah kamu kepada Allah dengan menegaskan): Maha Suci Allah, Tuhan yang mempunyai Arasy, dari apa yang mereka sifatkan. (Al-Anbiyaa : 22) ct_og posted on 26-11-2013 10:13 AM static/image/common/back.gif
Orang Islam tetap akan sembah Allah yang disebut dalam al-Quran bila Allah sendiri kata dalam al-Qur ...
orang yg percaya dgn Tuhan nescaya tolak islam..orang yg sesat, tiada percaya dgn tuhan atau orang yg duduk di hutan...boleh kau promote agama kau dkt mereka tapi saya pasti...lama2 mereka akan sedar mana yg benar dan palsu
mashimaru83 posted on 26-11-2013 07:34 AM static/image/common/back.gif
I don't know what you were trying to say in relation to the topic. My question still stand:
Per ...
per biblical evidence, can we still say that the Bible is 100% words of God?
300% i m confirmed it was God words...no doubt...
Truth.8 posted on 26-11-2013 01:41 PM static/image/common/back.gif
orang yg percaya dgn Tuhan nescaya tolak islam..orang yg sesat, tiada percaya dgn tuhan atau orang ...
Kamu tu jangan yakin sangat yang kamu tu Allah terima kalau beginilah akidah kamu terhadap Allah.. orang tak ada petunjuk Allah bolehlah ikut kamu... InsyaAllah dan Alhamdulillah... Allah beri saya petunjuk beriman dengan Allah Yang Satu... tiada dua dan tiada tiga Tuhan alam ini.. hanya Allah yang Satu.... Semoga Allah terus memberi petunjuk dan hidayah Nya kepada saya agar saya terus beriman kepada Nya dan memeluk agama Islam sebagai agama yang Allah perakui... Aaamiinnn....
Ayat Allah ini untuk kamu kini kalau kamu tak mahu bertaubat kepada Allah :
Dan orang-orang yang kafir, maka kecelakaanlah bagi mereka, dan Allah mensia-siakan amal-amal mereka. (Muhammad : 8) How can u accept the words of Bible is the word of God, since so many versions are published, so many different words are described in each different version? Where so many 'translators' words are now considered as word of God?
And;
How can Christianity accept the idiology of Priests (Father) of not being allowed to marry and have children? Since God had made man to be biologically attract to women, to have lusts, to have a penis. What good is a penis if a man can not use it? Does this sound like your 'God' is fair? That is why you hear about priests associated with sodomy, incest, etc. This 'priesthood' is not logical and even wrong in scientific terms, and God is always logical (As prescribed by Dr. Zakir Naik).
Islam is the only way and Allah is the one and only God, and Muhammad is His Messenger. Allah had promised that the Quran will not be edited, will not be changed till the end of time and has been so since. Quite a contrast to the Bible.
Anyways, the Bible and Christianity have a lot of flaws, not that Christianity is wrong, it is correct in terms of Islam, as it is the teachings of prophet Jesus and I do believe in the Bible as long as it does not contradict with the Quran, but the current Christianity is altered, totally changed from its actual foundation, and is outdated anyways. Last edited by aimaniac on 26-11-2013 04:41 PM
I watched and I am Muslim.Come and embrace Islam. ct_og posted on 26-11-2013 02:59 PM static/image/common/back.gif
Kamu tu jangan yakin sangat yang kamu tu Allah terima kalau beginilah akidah kamu terhadap Allah.. ...
aku lebih selesa dgn agama saya...:loveliness:
satu lagi...jgn lupa baca cerita2 dari pak arabs...mereka ini nombor satu tukang cerita... goreng kaw2 punya
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aimaniac posted on 26-11-2013 04:30 PM static/image/common/back.gif
How can u accept the words of Bible is the word of God, since so many versions are published, so man ...
How can Christianity accept the idiology of Priests (Father) of not being allowed to marry and have children? Since God had made man to be biologically attract to women, to have lusts, to have a penis. What good is a penis if a man can not use it? Does this sound like your 'God' is fair? That is why you hear about priests associated with sodomy, incest, etc. This 'priesthood' is not logical and even wrong in scientific terms, and God is always logical (As prescribed by Dr. Zakir Naik). is sin not to get married??? sodomy and incest exist in every faith...even in muslims nations too...
some choose not to get marry because they want e fullydevoted to GOD....even buddhist and hindus too...
u think muslims get married are good??? they can be worst than rusty
ibnur posted on 26-11-2013 05:25 PM static/image/common/back.gif
I watched and I am Muslim.Come and embrace Islam.
no thanks....i m happy with my presentfaith..
Truth.8 posted on 26-11-2013 10:50 PM static/image/common/back.gif
is sin not to get married??? sodomy and incest exist in every faith...even in muslims nations too ...
Of course its not a sin to not get married. But it is encouraged. For the good of the nation, for the good of a country. To have a family is a noble act to Allah, as He encourages it. What use is a country if it has so few people? Let alone so few people with quality, if one would consider priests so high of a degree compared to other humans. Let alone if priests, with so much knowledge of his religion, is forbidden to build his own family so that he can guide with his knowledge of his faith? U have a family dont you? Surely you do understand my point?
And yes sodomy do exist, but religion is not the CAUSE of it. Especially Islam. Cursed things happen mainly due to man's disposition, and also, lack of faith or guidance. Christianity on the hand, is just showing the way to sodomy, referring to this priest matter.
If you are saying some choose not to get married because they want to be fully devoted to God, then that means God discourage having a family? Why get married and have children when u should just spend time for God? If this is the case, I wonder, why did God made Eve to accompany Adam? If Adam became a priest, then there would be no humanity. And Eve would just pass away being a virgin. Or perhaps, the term 'virgin' wouldnt exist anyway.
Anyways, referring to ur reply to another forumer here;
"satu lagi...jgn lupa baca cerita2 dari pak arabs...mereka ini nombor satu tukang cerita... goreng kaw2 punya "
Apa kata kita tgk pak cik2 kristian yang tukang tukar cerita Injil. Tu lg kaw2 punya. Sampai semua org pun percaya dan baca Injil tipu sekarang ni. {:1_555:}
Truth.8 posted on 26-11-2013 01:42 PM static/image/common/back.gif
300% i m confirmed it was God words...no doubt...
Unfortunately the evidence shows the opposite.
Truth.8 posted on 26-11-2013 10:47 PM static/image/common/back.gif
aku lebih selesa dgn agama saya...
satu lagi...jgn lupa baca cerita2 dari pak arabs ...
Memang la kamu selesa dengan agama kamu sebab kamu dapat kuasa dan harta kan?Ramai orang pandang kamu mulia dengan apa yang kamu ada kini kan? Kalau macam tu sama je kamu dengan pendita-pendita Yahudi dan nasrani di zaman dulu-dulu bila mereka ubah ayat-ayat kitab Taurat dan Injil untuk terus berkuasa. Pada mereka hilang kuasa maka hilanglah kemewahan mereka... dah tak ada orang sanjung mereka...
Allah berkata :
Wahai Rasul Allah! Janganlah engkau menanggung dukacita disebabkan orang-orang yang segera menceburkan diri dalam kekufuran, iaitu dari orang-orang yang berkata dengan mulutnya: “Kami tetap beriman”, padahal hatinya tidak beriman; demikian juga dari orang-orang Yahudi, mereka orang-orang yang sangat suka mendengar berita-berita dusta; mereka sangat suka mendengar perkataan golongan lain (pendita-pendita Yahudi) yang tidak pernah datang menemuimu; mereka ini mengubah serta meminda perkataan-perkataan (dalam Kitab Taurat) itu dari tempat-tempatnya yang sebenar. Mereka berkata: “Jika disampaikan kepada kamu hukum seperti ini maka terimalah dia, dan jika tidak disampaikannya kepada kamu, maka jagalah diri baik-baik”. Dan sesiapa yang dikehendaki Allah kesesatannya, maka engkau tidak berkuasa sama sekali (menolak) sesuatu apapun (yang datang) dari Allah untuknya. Mereka ialah orang-orang yang Allah tidak mahu membersihkan hati mereka; bagi mereka kehinaan di dunia, dan di akhirat kelak mereka beroleh azab seksa yang besar. (Al-Maidah : 41)
Cerita orang Arab tu datangnya dari Allah... kalau orang tu dekat dan kenal dengan Allah maka dia kenal mana satu ayat Allah dan mana satu bukan ayat Allah. Orang yang tak dekat dan tak kenal Allah, ayat Allah dia kata bukan ayat Allah, ayat bukan ayat Allah pula dia kata ayat Allah... Sungguh... semuanya dari Allah jua... yang memilih sesat je akan terus sesat ke neraka... ct_og posted on 27-11-2013 07:54 AM static/image/common/back.gif
Memang la kamu selesa dengan agama kamu sebab kamu dapat kuasa dan harta kan?Ramai orang pandang ...
Memang la kamu selesa dengan agama kamu sebab kamu dapat kuasa dan harta kan?Ramai orang pandang kamu mulia dengan apa yang kamu ada kini kan? Kalau macam tu sama je kamu dengan pendita-pendita Yahudi dan nasrani di zaman dulu-dulu bila mereka ubah ayat-ayat kitab Taurat dan Injil untuk terus berkuasa. Pada mereka hilang kuasa maka hilanglah kemewahan mereka... dah tak ada orang sanjung mereka... itulah kamu.. tuduh bukan2 dan fitnah....ada kah islam membuat anda berfikir gitu? sebelum aku tuduh...jgn hidup katak dlm tempurang...kaji dulu...tanya semua orang bukandengar dari pak arabs ataumuslimsatau zakir naik ....kalau kau masih dgn mentaliti mcm ini...akhirat pun kau tidak mendapat kebenaraan ...asyik membuat fitnah dan tuduh bukan2
mashimaru83 posted on 27-11-2013 07:13 AM static/image/common/back.gif
Unfortunately the evidence shows the opposite.
well is ur interpreation ...I have no problem in believing the Bible ...i study from all source rather been parrot ..i mean listening to one party
aimaniac posted on 27-11-2013 02:55 AM
Of course its not a sin to not get married. But it is encouraged. For the good of the nation, for...
And yes sodomy do exist, but religion is not the CAUSE of it. Especially Islam. Cursed things happen mainly due to man's disposition, and also, lack of faith or guidance. Christianity on the hand, is just showing the way to sodomy, referring to this priest matter.
in malaysia too mostly muslims are engaging in sodomy ...u can google it...so..is not about race and religion but it do have effect in all
If you are saying some choose not to get married because they want to be fully devoted to God, then that means God discourage having a family? Why get married and have children when u should just spend time for God? If this is the case, I wonder, why did God made Eve to accompany Adam? If Adam became a priest, then there would be no humanity. And Eve would just pass away being a virgin. Or perhaps, the term 'virgin' wouldnt exist anyway.
1 Corinthians 7:32-35 I want you to be free from anxieties. The unmarried man is anxious about the things of the Lord, how to please the Lord. But the married man is anxious about worldly things, how to please his wife, and his interests are divided. And the unmarried or betrothed woman is anxious about the things of the Lord, how to be holy in body and spirit. But the married woman is anxious about worldly things, how to please her husband. I say this for your own benefit, not to lay any restraint upon you, but to promote good order and to secure your undivided devotion to the Lord.
Apa kata kita tgk pak cik2 kristian yang tukang tukar cerita Injil. Tu lg kaw2 punya. Sampai semua org pun percaya dan baca Injil tipu sekarang ni.
injil? apa buku ini? cerita dongeng ka? saya tak kenal pun injil ...ygsaya tahu Bible...
mungkin injil satu dari karya dari pak arabs...sama macam hikayat 1000 satu malam ...nombot satu dlm tukang cerita:lol: Truth.8 posted on 27-11-2013 10:51 AM static/image/common/back.gif
itulah kamu.. tuduh bukan2 dan fitnah....ada kah islam membuat anda berfikir gitu? sebelum aku tud ...
Kamu tu yang asyik buat andaian tak habis-habis.... pastu tu TUDUH saya yang tuduh kamu... tuuuu... tak nampak ke, ayat saya tu ayat tanya? hanya kamu yang tahu samada ada jawapannya benar atau tidak... kalau benar pun bukan saya tahukan?