banapore Publish time 22-8-2013 02:17 PM

Delusional People See the World Through Their Mind's Eye

Delusional People See the World Through Their Mind's Eye
By Tanya Lewis, Staff Writer   


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Having delusions, such as a belief in telekinesis, can influence how people see the world - literally.
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A mechanism for how the brain creates and maintains delusions is revealed in a new study.
Human beliefs are shaped by perception, but the new research suggests delusions — unfounded but tightly held beliefs — can turn the tables and actually shape perception. People who are prone to forming delusions may not correctly distinguish among different sensory inputs, and may rely on these delusions to help make sense of the world, the study finds. Typical delusions include paranoid ideas or inflated ideas about oneself.
"Beliefs form in order to minimize our surprise about the world," said neuroscientist Phil Corlett of Yale University in New Haven, Conn., who was not involved in the study. "Our expectations override what we actually see," Corlett added. [The 10 Biggest Mysteries of the Mind]


The prevailing thinking holds that people develop delusions to predict how events in their lives will occur — just as Pavlov's dog learned to predict that the sound of a bell ringing meant dinnertime was imminent. Humans update their beliefs when what they predict doesn't match what they actually experience, Corlett said.
But delusions often appear to override the evidence of the senses. To test this idea, German and Swedish researchers conducted behavioral and neuroimaging experiments on healthy people who harbor delusions.
In one experiment, volunteers were given a questionnaire designed to measure delusional beliefs. Questions included: Do you ever feel as if people are
reading your mind?; Do you ever feel as if there is a conspiracy against you?; Do you ever feel as if you are, or destined to be someone very important?; and Are you often worried that your partner may be unfaithful?
The participants then performed a task that tested their visual perception: They were shown a sphere-shaped set of dots rotating in an ambiguous direction, and asked to report which direction it was rotating at various intervals.
People who harbored a greater number of delusional beliefs (those who scored higher on the questionnaire) saw the dots appear to change direction more often than the average person. The result confirms findings from previous studies that delusional individuals have less stable perceptions of the world.
In a second experiment, the volunteers were given glasses, which they were told would bias their view so that the rotating dots would appear to go in one direction more often than the other direction — a delusion, because these were actually ordinary glasses. The volunteers performed a similar dot-watching task, with a learning phase and a test phase. During the learning phase, the dots clearly rotated in one direction, but during the test phase, the direction was ambiguous.
While wearing the glasses, the volunteers reported seeing the dots rotate in the biased direction, even during the test phase. They clung to the delusion that the glasses altered their vision, even though the visual evidence contradicted this idea, suggesting they used their delusional beliefs to interpret what they were seeing.
A third experiment was similar to the second, but brain scans were taken using functional magnetic resonance imaging. The scans showed that when people were deluded about the direction of the dots' rotation, their brains were encoding the delusion as if they had really seen the dots move that way. In other words, people weren't just ignoring what they saw; they were really seeing something else.
Furthermore, the brain scans revealed connections between a brain area involved in beliefs, the orbitofrontal cortex, and an area involved in visual processing, the visual cortex. (Both became active during the delusional observations.)
Corlett finds the results exciting. The study "gives us a nice explanation for the relation between belief and perception and how it might go awry," he said.
But he cautioned that drawing inferences about people who are clinically delusional, such as those with schizophrenia, may be premature. Time will tell whether the same brain mechanisms are at play for these patients, he said.
Editor's Note: This article was updated at 5:58 p.m. ET August 20 to correct Phil Corlett's affiliation.
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Sephiroth Publish time 23-8-2013 09:31 AM

"Beliefs form in order to minimize our surprise about the world," said neuroscientist Phil Corlett of Yale University in New Haven, Conn., who was not involved in the study. "Our expectations override what we actually see," Corlett added.

Doesn't this include atheism as well? You choose not to see "proof" of God and therefore, God doesn't exist to you.

100 years ago, people couldn't believe that there is Infra Red or Ultra Violet spectrum or the possibility that an animal could navigate using electrical impulses. And yet today, we found out that whole bunch of animals do uses this spectrum to see and that animals like sharks hunts by detecting electrical impulses in the water. In short, atheists too limit their own sensors to what they can see or feel, and therefore, they shut their brains from able to understand God. For them, God doesn't exist because they choose to believe God doesn't exist. In their little mind, that is their proof.

Dzulqarnain Publish time 23-8-2013 04:19 PM

I tot they call it 'insight'?
- Ofkos you need to believe to see...:D

Sephiroth Publish time 26-8-2013 09:45 AM

Dzulqarnain posted on 23-8-2013 04:19 PM static/image/common/back.gif
I tot they call it 'insight'?
- Ofkos you need to believe to see...

Do you know what insight is? I very much doubt you have evolved that much, but I tell you anyway.

Have you ever had situation where someone asked you where his or her purse is, and the image of the purse sitting under the table or chair or some specific locations you have never seen beforehand just pop into your mind? And you go there and actually found it. That is Insight.

People who have insight will look at the World as part and parcel of something bigger. They will look at events that look random but actually feels like parts of a larger puzzle falling into places. They could read history books and knew that those events there was not a random events but prove of something manipulating the World so people could play their roles accordingly and shape the World as it meant to be. That is Insight. And Atheists are not evolved enough to understand even this basic thing. {:1_550:}

Dzulqarnain Publish time 29-8-2013 03:56 AM

Sephiroth posted on 26-8-2013 09:45 AM static/image/common/back.gif
Do you know what insight is? I very much doubt you have evolved that much, but I tell you anyway.
...

Do you know what insight is?In short, you understand it with the heart.

Have you ever had situation where someone asked you where his or her purse is, and the image of the purse sitting under the table or chair or some specific locations you have never seen beforehand just pop into your mind? And you go there and actually found it. That is Insight.
I rather call this as vision la Sephiroth. :D
Insight is what you clearly/deeply perceive (understanding)

People who have insight will look at the World as part and parcel of something bigger. They will look at events that look random but actually feels like parts of a larger puzzle falling into places. They could read history books and knew that those events there was not a random events but prove of something manipulating the World so people could play their roles accordingly and shape the World as it meant to be. That is Insight.
Yes. This one i agree.

And Atheists are not evolved enough to understand even this basic thing.
Ofkos they don't and never will understand, Sephiroth.
They only measure the size of their brain and compare it with others.

p/s: Seeing needs to be enlightened, to witness it by the eyes and the heart - knowledge.

Sephiroth Publish time 29-8-2013 09:32 AM

by Dzulqarnain

In short, you understand it with the heart.

Yes, you understand it with your heart (or more precisely, with feeling). Atheists do not have this capability because to them, a heart is just a pump and their feelings can be manipulated by the sensors. Which means their atheistic mind are tune only to fulfilling the sensual and carnal desires of the flesh to the point that they block their own higher functions by stating it does not exist.

I rather call this as vision la Sephiroth.
Insight is what you clearly/deeply perceive (understanding)
Call it whatever you like. It matters not.

p/s: Seeing needs to be enlightened, to witness it by the eyes and the heart - knowledge.

No, seeing is to believe - because the human brain gets about 80% of all its input from the eyes. Therefore, a person sees something and believes it is true. Knowledge comes from understanding what it is seen. Insight to know the small things and how it fits into the larger things in the World. This eventually will lead to Enlightenment.

banapore Publish time 29-8-2013 11:02 AM

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Dzulqarnain Publish time 11-9-2013 02:03 AM

Sephiroth posted on 29-8-2013 09:32 AM static/image/common/back.gif
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Atheists do not have this capability because to them, a heart is just a pump and their feelings can be manipulated by the sensors. Which means their atheistic mind are tune only to fulfilling the sensual and carnal desires of the flesh to the point that they block their own higher functions by stating it does not exist.Ofkos Sephiroth - 'masters of illusions'
they really need a very high IQ/EQ for that...;P

Sephiroth Publish time 11-9-2013 08:28 AM

Dzulqarnain posted on 11-9-2013 02:03 AM static/image/common/back.gif
Ofkos Sephiroth - 'masters of illusions'
they really need a very high IQ/EQ for that...

No, IQ have nothing to do with it. I have seen many intellectual atheists and they are capable of understanding many things. However, they don't understand Spiritualism because of one simple reason - they fill their hearts with Ego and their minds with Ignorance. They feel that "God" must be within their gasp - able to understand, measure, computate and calculate to the point which they could understand and repeat in a class room. WHY? Because that is how they were taught (in Modern Educational System which they based their mindset on).

Bottomline - Atheists or Theists - they all see what they want to see, not what there is to see. That is why Hindus called this World - World of Maya (Illusions).

Sephiroth Publish time 11-9-2013 11:13 AM

“They say that this world is unreal, that there is no foundation and that there is no God in control. It is produced of sex desire, and has no cause other than lust.” (Lord Krishna, Bhagavad-gita, 16.8)

Atheists nowadays claims that they know Science and Knowledge and these could enable them to prove that God does not exist and that the Universe is nothing but gross matter (thus rejecting the Force that Governs it).

They think they are very smart and even reject earlier principles of atheists before them who choose to break away from bondage of Religion and find God on their own (which is perfectly fine as this too is Spiritual process - done by great Men like Gautama Buddha). Scientists like Carl Sagan and Albert Einstein both have rejected the ideal of Universe as described in Christianity and embraced other ideals which made sense (including Hinduism which become popular in 1960s and 1970s).

But Atheists nowadays are ignorant and arrogant. They do not look for God and uses the religions which they were born into as an excuse to declare that ALL religions are equal (thus false) and that there is no God. They claims to know Science but all they are, are ignorant fools.

“Those who are envious and mischievous, who are the lowest among men, are cast by Me into the ocean of material existence, into various demoniac species of life.” (Lord Krishna, Bhagavad-gita, 16.19)

God does not make one an Atheist. By Laws of Karma, those who lives an animalistic life style, will fall deeper into materialistic existence, devolving from a higher human being to an animalistic state (focusing on only fullfilling gross desires of the flesh) and finally, to a demonic state (with no consciousness, morale or ethics).

banapore Publish time 11-9-2013 04:54 PM

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Sephiroth Publish time 12-9-2013 08:20 AM

banapore posted on 11-9-2013 04:54 PM static/image/common/back.gif


George Carlin ... Isn't he is in hell right now? I hope he finds his accommadations to his likings. :lol:

Dzulqarnain Publish time 12-9-2013 12:27 PM

Sephiroth posted on 11-9-2013 08:28 AM static/image/common/back.gif
No, IQ have nothing to do with it. I have seen many intellectual atheists and they are capable of...

By Sephiroth

Because that is how they were taught (in Modern Educational System which they based their mindset on).

i.e. for the educational system which is globally standardized
they also have their hands on it, right?
And ofkos mankind (most of us) being brainwashed by their tricks.
This benchmark of complexities is the way they divert their spiritual sense to other than God
- Indeed there is magic in eloquence and pursuing the worldly knowledge is their specialty.

When the link between a man and his Creator is a straight-line
there is only a two-point connection...
- but they created multi-points connections jz to disconnect. :shakehead3:

Agreed on the two: 1- Arrogant/ego, 2- Ignorant

Bottomline - Atheists or Theists - they all see what they want to see, not what there is to see. That is why Hindus called this World - World of Maya (Illusions).
- in denial of the Meeting in the Hereafter...

Sephiroth Publish time 12-9-2013 12:55 PM

by Dzulqarnain

And ofkos mankind (most of us) being brainwashed by their tricks.

There are four types of humans upon this World :

1. Those who deny God and lives an animalistic lifestyle. They will be forever circulate within materialistic existence, devolving into animals and finally demons. Which is why there are so many killings in the West - whether as soldiers who fight in another country or random killings in schools and streets. They have no consciousness and live only for gratifications of the sense. .

2. Those who deny Religion but still look for God (in a different form). They will find what they seek at end of their life.

3. Those who doesn't know God and uses religion as a tool to find (a suitable understanding of) God. For this people, they require teachers, gurus, swamis or prophets as their minds are incapable of gasping the larger truth. They are like people who fears the Sun above them, and can only dare to look at the Sun's reflection upon the still waters.

4. And there are a very very small group of people - they hold no religions in highest regards. They have no Masters other than God. They see and feel God in everything and they become part of everything around them. They can feel the movement of the Earth, the Breath of God in the Wind, the healing powers of the Water and the fiery divine wrath in the Fire. They are the Ones who have evolved to the highest (potential) points humanity can achieve. (This is the Highest point of Human Evolution].


Therefore, while you could say that you are brainwashed by others, the fact is - no one brainwashed you. You choose to follow or reject what they teach you. You can choose to take from them the good things and throw away the bad things they give. For example, Western medicine is good, but if you choose not to have certain medicine or medical assistance like Abortion methods - as long as this does not apply to certain cases like having too many children (family planning), rape or due to medical factors like endangering mother's life. You choose what you wish to get.

When the link between a man and his Creator is a straight-line
there is only a two-point connection...

But the problem here is not false religion or false gods or false prophets. A true Spiritualist will know one simple fact - IF you cannot reach God, it is because of YOURSELF. There is no other cause for it. You cannot blame them for misleading you. You were mislead because you choose to follow them and lost your way. I read many books written by atheists (offline and online) and watched many TV shows and movies with strong atheist influence. Those influence acts like poison but it does not dent my faith. Do you know why? Because I take the poison and turn it into antidote. The questions they asked (in ignorance), I ask and I look for the answers and use it to fuel my faith.

banapore Publish time 13-9-2013 05:16 PM

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Sephiroth Publish time 14-9-2013 01:02 PM

banapore posted on 13-9-2013 05:16 PM static/image/common/back.gif


ALL religions does not teach peace. Go and learn properly about various religions.

Hinduism :-
Promotes the Understanding of Karma and achieving Moksha (existence without rebirths).
It says "FIGHT" if your rights are in danger and do so in a proper manner.

Buddhism :-
Promotes the Understanding of Karma and elimination of possible Rebirths (different from Hinduism here).
Promotes actions to end suffering on oneself.
It says "Fight" in a situation where your inaction could cause suffering to others.

Islam :-
Promotes dying and escaping from this World through personal sacrifice.
Saying NOTHING about Peace and Tranquility of Oneself or the Society in general.

Christianity :-
Promotes animalistic form of living while reducing the sins committed through prayers and confessions.
Jesus himself told his followers to sell their cloaks if they must to buy a sword or dagger.

Therefore, WHAT THE HELL DO YOU (ATHEISTS) MEAN THAT ALL RELIGIONS PROMOTE PEACE? Bodoh Piang. :curse:

cmf_BeachBoys Publish time 14-9-2013 10:00 PM

hindu la yang paling teruk...sembah binatang n patung sebagai tuhan.......bodoh piang...:lol:

Dzulqarnain Publish time 17-9-2013 04:57 AM

Sephiroth posted on 12-9-2013 12:55 PM static/image/common/back.gif
by Dzulqarnain




By Sephiroth

There are four types of humans upon this World :
Seven stages of human self, actually.
1- The inciting
2- The self-accusing
3- The inspired
4- At peace
5- The pleased
6- The pleasing
7- The pure

Therefore, while you could say that you are brainwashed by others, the fact is - no one brainwashed you. You choose to follow or reject what they teach you. You can choose to take from them the good things and throw away the bad things they give. For example, Western medicine is good, but if you choose not to have certain medicine or medical assistance like Abortion methods - as long as this does not apply to certain cases like having too many children (family planning), rape or due to medical factors like endangering mother's life. You choose what you wish to get.
True.
But some have no other options to choose from - limited/emergency
To not being brainwashed, they have to search for the answer :)
and not from some selective info being served by 'them'...

In medicine, they only provide what have been certified by FDA, AMA, etc.
Ofkos, these standards/benchmarking methods were set by a small number of profiteering capitalist...
-> i.e. Cancer - The Forbidden Cures, Vaccination - The Hidden Truth
and most traditionists, herbatologists, etc. were fined/jailed from practicing their medicine.
- How/Who would even notice of this kind of indoctrinate a.k.a. 'brainwash'?

But the problem here is not false religion or false gods or false prophets. A true Spiritualist will know one simple fact - IF you cannot reach God, it is because of YOURSELF. There is no other cause for it. You cannot blame them for misleading you. You were mislead because you choose to follow them and lost your way. I read many books written by atheists (offline and online) and watched many TV shows and movies with strong atheist influence. Those influence acts like poison but it does not dent my faith. Do you know why? Because I take the poison and turn it into antidote. The questions they asked (in ignorance), I ask and I look for the answers and use it to fuel my faith.
Agreed.
For me, you need to know who/what misled yourSELF jz to turn away from it
if we cannot identify it as a false path, then we would never be in the straight path
- unless there is sincerity in the heart which enlightened your way...

Visions which being presented to us is a sign for some, influence for many, followed by most...
- a beautiful mind do think and ponder on it through the depth of knowledge before deciding on sellections to choose from.

p/s: But to get to an island crossing the sea, you don't have to measure the depth right?
Because an effort is measured on its surface unless you hitchin' a scorpene or spread your wings to fly. :D

Sephiroth Publish time 17-9-2013 09:37 AM

cmf_BeachBoys posted on 14-9-2013 10:00 PM static/image/common/back.gif
hindu la yang paling teruk...sembah binatang n patung sebagai tuhan.......bodoh piang...

Dan Islam itu agama Syaitan, dgn Nabinya seorang sex maniac. {:1_550:}

Jadi, mana ada semua agama sama?

Sephiroth Publish time 17-9-2013 10:10 AM

by Dzulqarnain

True.
But some have no other options to choose from - limited/emergency
To not being brainwashed, they have to search for the answer
and not from some selective info being served by 'them'...

There is no "them" here. Only authority in your life is YOU. IF you choose to allow others to brainwash you, then it is your mistake - not God's, not the society and not your parents. YOU.

Weak-minded people, incapable of making their own decisions out of fear of making mistake, often looks for scapegoat to blame on. You are just one such person who kept looking for "them" to blame on your weak-mindness. {:1_550:}

In medicine, they only provide what have been certified by FDA, AMA, etc.
I'm talking about Malaysia, not USA. There are still many traditional practices in Malaysia which doesn't have approval from Health Ministry. Whether people should follow it or not, it is up to them.

p/s: But to get to an island crossing the sea, you don't have to measure the depth right?

No, you need to know the distance and direction to travel (knowledge of the World) and sufficient among of resources to make the journey (ability to survive) as well as knowledge to expand and prosper in the new island (self-sufficiency). You do not need to know the depth unless you wish to commit suicide. {:1_550:}

You cannot find and solve a problem (like finding God) by looking for the wrong path or knowledge. Knowing what you should look for and able to throw away things you do not need and spend time and effect for things you do need are a smart thing.
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