Truth.8 Publish time 18-4-2013 02:19 PM

BIBLE is AUTHENTIC! - QURAN is WRONG

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cmf_BeachBoys Publish time 18-4-2013 08:43 PM

Injil is authentic not bible,and Quran also authentic

Al-Patih Publish time 19-5-2013 06:17 AM

American Standard Version (ASV)
Lexham English Bible (LEB)
Common English Bible (CEB)
New American Standard (NAS)Douay-Rheims (RHE)New International Version (NIV)English Standard Version (ESV)New King James Version (NKJV)GOD'S WORD Translation (GW)New Living Translation (NLT)Good News Translation (GNT)New Revised Standard (NRS)Holman Christian Standard (CSB)Revised Standard Version (RSV)King James Version (KJV)The Message (MSG)

which one ....????

kertasputih Publish time 19-5-2013 09:38 AM

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naimareim Publish time 10-8-2013 05:22 AM

why have so many version if your BIBLE is authentic?

Al-Patih Publish time 20-8-2013 06:31 AM

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Truth.8 Publish time 20-8-2013 09:18 AM

naimareim posted on 10-8-2013 05:22 AM static/image/common/back.gif
why have so many version if your BIBLE is authentic?

ahahahha another followers of ahamd deedat....keep repeating like parrot.....

http://www.heathersanimations.com/parrots/papagaio.gif



Ofcourse lah many version because for easy understanding....like myself...i cant be reading in original texts in hebrew rite?

dont forget, Bible too have mandarin , malay , tamil and many of language ....because spread the good news of GOD

common sense

Truth.8 Publish time 20-8-2013 09:19 AM

Al-Patih posted on 20-8-2013 06:31 AM static/image/common/back.gif


ini apapunya youtube???

sam1528 Publish time 20-8-2013 11:28 AM

Truth.8 posted on 20-8-2013 09:18 AM static/image/common/back.gif
ahahahha another followers of ahamd deedat....keep repeating like parrot


Ofcourse lah many version because for easy understanding....like myself...i cant be reading in original texts in hebrew rite?

dont forget, Bible too have mandarin , malay , tamil and many of language ....because spread the good news of GOD

common sense



Allo tambi. The question posted by 'naimareim' is about the different versions of the bible but you shifted the goalposts (ie. change the topic) to be different translations of the bible. Versions and translations are 2 different things. The different versions of the bible as follows :


Empty table cells indicate that a book is absent from that canon.

Tanakh
(Jewish Bible)
(24 books)
Books in bold are part of the KetuvimProtestant
Old Testament
(39 books)Catholic
Old Testament
(46 books)Eastern Orthodox
Old Testament
(51 books)Original language
TorahPentateuch or the Five Books of Moses

BereishitGenesisGenesisGenesisHebrew
ShemotExodusExodusExodusHebrew
VayikraLeviticusLeviticusLeviticusHebrew
BamidbarNumbersNumbersNumbersHebrew
DevarimDeuteronomyDeuteronomyDeuteronomyHebrew
Nevi'im (Prophets)Historical books

YehoshuaJoshuaJoshua (Josue)Joshua (Iesous)Hebrew
ShofetimJudgesJudgesJudgesHebrew
Rut (Ruth)RuthRuthRuthHebrew
Shemuel1 Samuel1 Samuel (1 Kings)1 Samuel (1 Kingdoms)Hebrew
2 Samuel2 Samuel (2 Kings)2 Samuel (2 Kingdoms)Hebrew
Melakhim1 Kings1 Kings (3 Kings)1 Kings (3 Kingdoms)Hebrew
2 Kings2 Kings (4 Kings)2 Kings (4 Kingdoms)Hebrew
Divrei Hayamim (Chronicles)1 Chronicles1 Chronicles (1 Paralipomenon)1 Chronicles (1 Paralipomenon)Hebrew
2 Chronicles2 Chronicles (2 Paralipomenon)2 Chronicles (2 Paralipomenon)Hebrew



1 EsdrasHebrew
Ezra-NehemiahEzraEzra (1 Esdras)Ezra (2 Esdras)Hebrew and Aramaic
NehemiahNehemiah (2 Esdras)Nehemiah (2 Esdras)Hebrew


Tobit (Tobias)Tobit (Tobias)Aramaic (and Hebrew?)
JudithJudithHebrew
EstherEstherEstherEstherHebrew


1 Maccabees (1 Machabees)1 MaccabeesHebrew
      2 Maccabees (2 Machabees)            2 Maccabees         Greek

3 MaccabeesGreek
            4 Maccabees         Greek
Ketuvim (Writings)Wisdom books
Iyov (Job)JobJobJobHebrew
         Tehillim (Psalms)      Psalms                     Psalms                  Psalms          Hebrew



Prayer of ManassehGreek
Mishlei (Proverbs)ProverbsProverbsProverbsHebrew
Qoheleth (Ecclesiastes)   Ecclesiastes                Ecclesiastes               Ecclesiastes          Hebrew
Shir Hashirim (Song of Songs)Song of SolomonSong of Songs (Canticle of Canticles)Song of Songs (Aisma Aismaton)          Hebrew


WisdomWisdomGreek
      Sirach (Ecclesiasticus)               Sirach          Hebrew
Nevi'im (Latter Prophets)Major prophets
YeshayahuIsaiahIsaiah (Isaias)IsaiahHebrew
YirmeyahuJeremiahJeremiah (Jeremias)JeremiahHebrew and Aramaic
Eikhah (Lamentations)LamentationsLamentationsLamentationsHebrew


BaruchBaruchHebrew
            Letter of JeremiahGreek (majority view)
Yekhezqel   Ezekiel          Ezekiel (Ezechiel)               Ezekiel          Hebrew
Daniel      Daniel         Daniel               DanielHebrew and Aramaic

Twelve Minor Prophets
The Twelve
or
Trei Asar      Hosea             Hosea (Osee)               Hosea         Hebrew
      Joel                  Joel                  Joel         Hebrew
      Amos               Amos                  Amos         Hebrew
      Obadiah          Obadiah (Abdias)                Obadiah         Hebrew
       Jonah          Jonah (Jonas)               Jonah         Hebrew
      Micah          Micah (Micheas)               Micah         Hebrew
      Nahum               Nahum                Nahum         Hebrew
   Habakkuk      Habakkuk (Habacuc)            Habakkuk         Hebrew
   Zephaniah      Zephaniah (Sophonias)            Zephaniah          Hebrew
      Haggai         Haggai (Aggeus)               Haggai          Hebrew
   Zechariah      Zechariah (Zacharias)               Zechariah            Hebrew
   Malachi         Malachi (Malachias)                  Malachi             Hebrew

Several of the books in the Eastern Orthodox canon are also found in the appendix to the Latin Vulgate, formerly the official Bible of the Roman Catholic Church.

Books in the Appendix to the Vulgate Bible

                     Name in Vulgate
Name in Eastern Orthodox use

3 Esdras1 Esdras
4 Esdras


                     Prayer of ManassehPrayer of Manasseh
Psalm of David when he slew Goliath (Psalm 151)Psalm 151


As for the NT in Codex Sinaiticus (the oldest dated bible so far) :
The version of the New Testament has some few interesting differences. It includes two works which have since been dropped from both Catholic and Protestant Bibles – "The Shepherd of Hermas", a heavily allegorical work full of visions and parables and "The Epistle of Barnabas", which contains highly-charged language about the Jews as the killers of Christ.


The Codex omits the words which Protestants add to the end of The Lord's Prayer, and Catholics omit: "For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever (Matthew 6:13).


Other differences include it saying that Jesus was "angry" as he healed a leper, where the modern text says he acted with "compassion". The story of the stoning of the adulterous woman – "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone" is not there. Nor are Christ's words about his executioners from the cross: "Father forgive them for they know not what they do". And its Gospel of Mark ends abruptly after Jesus's disciples discover his empty tomb – omitting the 12 verses on the appearance of the resurrected Christ – and leaving the disciples exiting in fear. The Codex leaves an unusual blank space where the verses should be. "That's a very odd way of ending a Gospel," says Juan Garces, the curator of the Codex Sinaiticus Project.
Additionally :
Protestants, Roman Catholics, and Greek Orthodox Christians agree on the same 27 books for the composition of the New Testament; however some smaller groups of Christians do not. The Nestorian, or Syrian church, recognizes only 22 books, excluding 2 Peter, 2 and 3 John, Jude and Revelation.

On the other hand, the Ethiopian Orthodox Church includes the same 27 books in its "narrower" canon but adds 8 books to its "broader" canon: "four sections of church order from a compilation called Sinodos, two sections from the Ethiopic Books of Covenant, Ethiopic Clement, and Ethiopic Didascalia."
Ha ha , confirmed that there are different versions (not translations) of the bible , both the OT and NT. No wonder you try to change the topic to different translations. Are you embarrassed with the different versions (not translations) of the bible?

Appears that the different sects in christianity have independent ideas of what should be the word of the biblical God.

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Al-Patih Publish time 20-8-2013 11:49 AM

Truth.8 posted on 20-8-2013 09:19 AM static/image/common/back.gif
ini apapunya youtube???

Siaran Terkendala lah .. Beb ...{:shyo

Truth.8 Publish time 20-8-2013 12:33 PM

sam1528 posted on 20-8-2013 11:28 AM static/image/common/back.gif
Allo tambi. The question posted by 'naimareim' is about the different versions of the bible but yo ...

i do not have problem reading Bible ...it need faith...unlike muslims...who do not have faith they will killing each others with different sects....one example shia and sunni or shit or whatever you call it...

u need correct your path first than judging others

sam1528 Publish time 20-8-2013 05:24 PM

Truth.8 posted on 20-8-2013 12:33 PM static/image/common/back.gif
i do not have problem reading Bible ...it need faith...unlike muslims...who do not have faith they will killing each others with different sects....one example shia and sunni or shit or whatever you call it...

u need correct your path first than judging others

In other words , you agree that there are many versions (not translations) of the bible. The question now which version is the so called authentic one , if there is one.

You read which version of the bible with faith? With or without faith , it is still one of the many versions.

Ha ha , this is really funny. When cornered , you try your best to shift the goalposts aka change topics. We are done talking about sects and killings , you've been thoroughly refuted in this issue. Can you focus on this issue of the authenticity of the bible? As predicted , you cannot do so. Told you christian theology is indefensible.
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Truth.8 Publish time 22-8-2013 12:02 PM

sam1528 posted on 20-8-2013 05:24 PM static/image/common/back.gif
In other words , you agree that there are many versions (not translations) of the bible. The quest ...
            Bible Verse Comparison            It is the intention of our Compare Bible Verses by Translation pages to allow users to study Bible verses using more than one translation and version. This study tool can help people see how different translations and versions have interpreted the original Greek and Hebrew languages.When comparing translations for a Bible verse, users can read the well-known translations including New International Version, King James Bible, The Message, Revised Standard Version, and English Standard Version, as well as more than 30 additional translations. When reading Bible verses in different translations, users can compare word for word translations and thought for thought translations that offer a parallel idiom for contemporary language. In addition, more recent versions offer a paraphrase translation for modern English.Whether you are a just beginning to read the Bible or a seasoned reader, comparing translations for individual Bible verses allows for a broader understanding of the passage and insight into the intent of the original Biblical manuscripts.      
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Unlike Muslims reading Quran without understanding


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sam1528 Publish time 22-8-2013 01:01 PM

Truth.8 posted on 22-8-2013 12:02 PM static/image/common/back.gif
Bible Verse Comparison            It is the intention of our Compare Bible Verses by T ...
Ha ha , you have many problems with the bible lah tambi. As follows :
- many version of the bible with different books (additional) per the different sects
- many editions of the bible (meaning the bible has been revised over and over again) which also mean many versions

Meaning :
- the different sects of Christianity have different ideas of what should be the word of the Christian God
- the word of the Christian God is dictated by man with the many revisions

I am not talking about the different translations.

I believe it is the Christians who read the bible without understanding :
http://bloggingtheology.files.wordpress.com/2013/08/jesus-rich-young-man.jpg

What say you?

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Truth.8 Publish time 22-8-2013 06:49 PM

sam1528 posted on 22-8-2013 01:01 PM static/image/common/back.gif
Ha ha , you have many problems with the bible lah tambi. As follows :
- many version of the bibl ...

I am reading KJV no problem...I can be reading in Hebrew...

here we have many version :http://www.biblegateway.com/

any problem with that?? it matter of understanding

sam1528 Publish time 22-8-2013 10:33 PM

Truth.8 posted on 22-8-2013 06:49 PM static/image/common/back.gif
I am reading KJV no problem...I can be reading in Hebrew...

here we have many version :http://www.biblegateway.com/

any problem with that?? it matter of understanding

Aiyoyo tambi. How come you so slow one? The question here is that with the many versions of the bible , which is the authentic version?

Bear in mind
- many version of the bible with different books (additional) per the different sects
- many editions of the bible (meaning the bible has been revised over and over again) which also mean many versions

An example of 1 joh5:7
bible kjv (or gay-J-V) : For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
bible niv : For there are three that testify
bible nrsv : There are three that testify

Big difference between the KJV (or Gay-J-V) and the niv / nrsv

Why you still 'die-die' talk about the different translations?

naimareim Publish time 25-8-2013 09:17 PM

nie yang kena explain dalam bahasa melayu rojak nie.. aku tanya dalam banyak2 version mana satu yang authentic.. simple as that.. ni duk pusing2 macam dalam versi-versi bible lak..

bukankah dulu catholic yg kononnya berpegang teguh kepada agama then pergi bunuh protestant tu? pastu mai pulak angelician punya sect.. tak ke berpecah2 jugak?

Truth.8 Publish time 26-8-2013 03:19 PM

sam1528 posted on 22-8-2013 10:33 PM static/image/common/back.gif
Aiyoyo tambi. How come you so slow one? The question here is that with the many versions of the bi ...

The fact remaind that the Bible hasmany version due to understanding for peoples read...
simple thing u do not understand

Truth.8 Publish time 26-8-2013 03:21 PM

naimareim posted on 25-8-2013 09:17 PM static/image/common/back.gif
nie yang kena explain dalam bahasa melayu rojak nie.. aku tanya dalam banyak2 version mana satu yang ...
bukankah dulu catholic yg kononnya berpegang teguh kepada agama then pergi bunuh protestant tu? pastu mai pulak angelician punya sect.. tak ke berpecah2 jugak?
ya ker????bila itu? 200 tahun?
yg muslims dengan muslimsada macam2 mazbah sehingga bunuh satu sama lain sehingga skrg...itu apanama nya?? hahahha kamu ini sama macambetina ustazahkutuk Valentine utk kristian yg buat dot dot....sedangkan dlm Bible tiada pun sebut valetine...

tahnia...satu dari produk yg di cipta oleh islam

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sam1528 Publish time 26-8-2013 06:14 PM

Truth.8 posted on 26-8-2013 03:19 PM static/image/common/back.gif
The fact remaind that the Bible hasmany version due to understanding for peoples read...
simple thing u do not understand
Aiyoyo tambi , such simple concept yet you fail to understand

Simple test for you -
(1) different translations of the bible
(2) different versions (comprising of different books) of the bible
(3) different versions (of different editions) of the bible

(1) = (2) = (3)?
(a) yes
(b) no
(c) don't know

(a) or (b) or (c) is the answer?

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