betul ker sukhoi tak boleh terbang?
Kalau saya tersilap, sila betulkansekarang ini malaysia dah dapat 18 buah sukhoi kan?
tapi dengar cite daripada 18 buah yang ada, 2 buah sahaja boleh digunakan setakat ini
sebab rosak
betul ker? Malaysia dah terima berapa biji? Kalau saya tersilap, sila betulkan
sekarang ini malaysia dah dapat 18 buah sukhoi kan?
tapi dengar cite daripada 18 buah yang ada, 2 buah sahaja boleh digunakan setakat ini
sebab rosak
betul ker?
azhartahir Post at 12-2-2010 10:40 http://mforum2.cari.com.my/images/common/back.gif
Ya ke? cepat cepat kasi tahu Marhain Abbas ! mana sumbernye? thread nak perli kapal selam nih :lol: betul ke anya takleh jalan kaki?.....:o Post Last Edit by jf_pratama at 12-2-2010 11:47
Kalau saya tersilap, sila betulkan
sekarang ini malaysia dah dapat 18 buah sukhoi kan?
tapi dengar cite daripada 18 buah yang ada, 2 buah sahaja boleh digunakan setakat ini
sebab rosak
betul ker?
azhartahir Post at 12-2-2010 09:40 http://mforum3.cari.com.my/images/common/back.gif
Probably .... Mungkin ......... Hahahahaha
Berdasarkan "Kabar Angin" ....Gosip-nya sih karena ada problem di "sistem avionic" ... peralatan buatan Perancis/Inggris ternyata nggak bisa "integrated perfectly" dengan peralatan buatan Rusia (maklum bahasanya beza-beza ... Perancis/Inggris vs Rusia ) ....... :lol: ;P ;P :lol:
Yup .... betul .....
Rumournya sih karena ada problem di "sistem avionic" ... peralatan buatan Perancis/Inggris ternyata nggak bisa "integrated" dengan peralatan buatan Rusia (maklum bahasanya...
jf_pratama Post at 12-2-2010 12:22 http://mforum2.cari.com.my/images/common/back.gif
jurucakap bagi PERsatuan Sepai InDON Di FOruM Cari
(atau ringkasnya PERSIDONDUM) telah mengesahkan,
so boleh la letak tahap kebolehpercayaan pada 0.5%,
ehe.. mengarut, member aku TUDM ckp bole je jet ni terbang..
die ckp jet ni mmg power. tp aspek lain xtau aa.. kalo sekali sekala x terbang memang aa, mungkin tengah servis. 1# azhartahir
dah dapat ke sumer 18 biji? :re: err sumber cite datang dari mana? meh kita kongsi sembang sembang Kalau saya tersilap, sila betulkan
sekarang ini malaysia dah dapat 18 buah sukhoi kan?
tapi dengar cite daripada 18 buah yang ada, 2 buah sahaja boleh digunakan setakat ini
sebab rosak
betul ker?
azhartahir Post at 12-2-2010 10:40 http://mforum3.cari.com.my/images/common/back.gif
pulak...sejak keluar cerita pasal kapal selam tu..mcm2 cerita plak keluar.. - yes there are avionicproblem in our sukhoi
because we used instruments from various sources
compatibility issue
- 2 enjin sukhoi rosak kena FOD
that's all i know from various forumms Post Last Edit by Vympel77 at 12-2-2010 17:20
double post pasni kuar plak criter sukhoi xleh mendarat plak..;P Two more RMAF jet engines 'lost'
http://www.mmail.com.my/content/26506-two-more-rmaf-jet-engines-lost
MARHALIM ABAS
Tuesday, February 2nd, 2010 13:33:00
PETALING JAYA: Two more fighter jet engines were "lost" by the Royal Malaysian Air Force (RMAF) in 2007, apart from the two F5 engines that were stolen from its Sungai Besi air base.
The other two engines "lost" belonged to a newly-delivered Sukhoi Su-30MKM Multi Role Combat Aircraft (MRCA). The aircraft suffered "foreign object damage" (FOD), as it goes in air force lingo, after its engines sucked in stones and other objects as it landed in June 2007.
Sources said the two NPO Saturn AL-31FP engines were scrapped after suffering "catastrophic damage" when the brand-new Sukhoi jet landed on the runway at the Gong Kedak air base in Kelantan.
However, RMAF chief Datuk Seri Rodzali Daud told The Malay Mail at Parliament recently that the engines were not scrapped but sent for repair.
He declined to elaborate, but did say that FOD was a normal occurrence in fighter jet operations. If the engines could be repaired, they would have been sent back to the Russian manufacturer, NPO Saturn.
Although the Sukhoi planes were equipped with titanium mesh doors that swing down over the air intake to protect the engines from FOD, the feature only worked during take-off and slow taxiing, not during landing.
Local defence industry sources who confirmed that the damaged engines were "lost" said it was difficult to estimate the cost of a brand new AL-31FP engine. The Sukhois cost the country RM155 million each and the government purchased 18 Su-30MKM from Russia in May 2003 at a cost of RM3.42 billion.
The Malay Mail learnt that the aircraft in the FOD incident was not grounded for long as the RMAF, as with other air forces, had procured spare engines for its Sukhoi fleet.
The sources said the Sukhoi was one of five fighter jets delivered in batches from May 2007.
These were transported from Russia to the Subang airbase in Antonov An-124 transport planes and re-assembled for trials before being handed over to the RMAF.
It is learnt that the damaged Sukhoi jet was flown by a Sukhoi Design Bureau test crew when the incident occurred, and that RMAF had initially demanded that the Russian company replaces the two engines.
However, Sukhoi refused on grounds that the test crew was only following the orders of RMAF officials to land at the Gong Kedak air base. The runway had been cleared for other RMAF aircraft such as the Hercules C-130 but at that point, the Sukhois had yet to be given the greenlight to land.
The Gong Kedak base had undergone massive re-development to host the new MRCA squadron.
More than RM200 million was spent to re-develop the air base, which now boasts an extended runway and new facilities, including hardened aircraft shelters for the Sukhoi squadron.
Although the incident was a clear violation of RMAF standing orders, no one has been hauled up over the loss of the two engines.
The Sukhoi made its public debut in the country at the 2007Merdeka Day parade and the jets also took part in the Langkawi International Maritime and Aerospace show in December that year May 29/09: Jane’s Defence Weekly reports that:
“Malaysia has yet to take delivery of its final six Sukhoi Su-30MKM fighters…. The six aircraft are ready for delivery, local industry sources told Jane’s , but Malaysia is refusing to accept them until Sukhoi fixes integration problems with the avionics on 12 Su-30MKMs that have already been delivered.”
http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/malaysia-receives-first-2-su30mkms-03336/ terlalu banyak isu2 peralatan tentera
yang disensasikan akhir2 ini oleh sesetengah
media antara lainnya kerana dasar informasi
terbuka yang diamalkan
kementah dan ATM sendiri yg seterusnya telah
diambil kesempatan dan dieksploit untuk agenda tertentu..
kelemahan memang wujud dan perlu diperbetulkan,
tetapi maklumat berkepentingan perlu
lebih dikawal supaya tidak menjerat diri dan jejaskan
reputasi
hakikat sebenarnya adalah
kebanyakan isu seperti kegagalan fungsi
sewaktu ujian tembakan, kerosakan sewaktu
proses ujian, kemalangan pesawat dan pelbagai lagi adalah
sebenarnya merupakan senario biasa dalam mana2 cabang
angkatan tentera di seluruh dunia Post Last Edit by jf_pratama at 12-2-2010 17:30
Post Last Edit by jf_pratama at 12-2-2010 17:20
jurucakap bagi PERsatuan Sepai InDON Di FOruM Cari
(atau ringkasnya PERSIDONDUM) telah mengesahkan,
so boleh la letak tahap kebolehpercayaan pada 0.5%,
ehe..
d'zeck Post at 12-2-2010 11:46 http://mforum3.cari.com.my/images/common/back.gif
Sensi banget ente .... kayak cewe baru "datang bulan" aja ......;P :lol:
May 29/09: Jane’s Defence Weekly reports that:
“Malaysia has yet to take delivery of its final six Sukhoi Su-30MKM fighters…. The six aircraft are ready for delivery, local industry sources told Jane’s , but Malaysia is refusing to accept them until Sukhoi fixes integration problems with the avionics on 12 Su-30MKMs that have already been delivered.”
http://www.defenseindustrydaily. ... t-2-su30mkms-03336/
Gosipnya ... Rusia udah "give up" sama sistem avionic yang diminta TUDM ... betulkah ini?
Tapi jangan khawatir ... sediakan saja tambahan USD1.0 billion untuk armada SU 30 MKM anda ...... maka saya yakin masalah "avionic" tersebut boleh cepat selesai ...:lol: kesemua 18 pesawat telah diterima masuk dlm inventori TUDM, skn skrg berstatus operasi mean bersedia ditugaskan bila2... sukhoi TUDM rosak n xleh terbang? hu3... sukhoi sapa yang dok terbang buat exs ATG? sukhoi sapa plak yang pegi buat flypast kt brunei? sukhai sapa plak yang dok terbang skrg? aku pelikler dgn kepercayaan radio2 karat yang mula dgn ayat betulker2... hmmm
p/s : Sukhoi akan terlibat dgn Red Flag, FPDA dan 3 service exercise... 7# jf_pratama konon
kemasukan batu...landasannya ga dibersihin dulu sie....
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