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OSMANLI Publish time 11-2-2010 10:02 AM

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Mangsa2 Bismarck
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HMS HOOD
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HMS Prince of Wales mampu tengok je masa HMS Hood sink....

HangPC2 Publish time 11-2-2010 11:30 AM

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yaminz Publish time 11-2-2010 11:44 AM

42# HangPC2

Kapal pemberian German kpd Turkey, tapi komandan nyer adalah German...

yaminz Publish time 11-2-2010 11:50 AM

32# jkkkj

HMS Repulse first saw action on 17 November 1917 at the Second Battle of Heligoland Bight. HMS Prince Of Wales, mrupakan kapal perang paling tbaru RN dan tlibat dlm pburuan Bismark bsama HMS Hood.

ctaz Publish time 11-2-2010 12:23 PM

kalau aku ... dlm kepala aku teringat kat Bismarck aje.... paling advance masa zaman dia terutama gun turret dia... 1st battle dah bantai kapal lawan...
aku1265 Post at 10-2-2010 09:56 http://mforum3.cari.com.my/images/common/back.gif

betul....
aku pon sokong....
yg no dua....dah tentu la yamato.............

OSMANLI Publish time 11-2-2010 12:28 PM

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Mahmudiye (1829)
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Ottoman Battlecruisers Yavuz

HangPC2 Publish time 11-2-2010 12:46 PM

jKXGsOh5ep8

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OSMANLI Publish time 11-2-2010 12:49 PM

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KD Sri Inderapura

USS Spartanburg County
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USS Spartanburg Countyreturning from Operation Desert Storm

OSMANLI Publish time 11-2-2010 12:57 PM

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USS Iowa

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IJN Satsuma

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RN Vittorio Veneto

HangPC2 Publish time 11-2-2010 12:57 PM

Picture of a Discussion by Naval Officers about the Battle Strategy against China

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Japanese Warships Fire on the Enemy near Haiyang Island

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After the Fall of Weihaiwei, the Commander of the Chinese Beiyang Fleet, Admiral Ding Juchang, Surrenders by Mizuno Toshikata, November 1895

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“ Admiral Ding Juchang of the Chinese Beiyang Fleet, Totally Destroyed at Weihaiwei, Commits Suicide at His Official Residence ” by Mizuno Toshikata, February 1895

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alphawolf Publish time 11-2-2010 12:59 PM

OSMANLI Publish time 11-2-2010 01:02 PM

46# OSMANLI
Patutnya Turki dapat battleship Sultan Osman I (ex-Rio de Janeiro) dengan 14 meriam 14 inci dengan Reshadiyeh yg bersenjatakan 10 meriam 13.5 inci...tapi British confiscate sebelum WW1 ...
alphawolf Post at 11-2-2010 12:59 http://eforum3.cari.com.my/images/common/back.gif mungkin mereka tau kekuatan Turki kalu dpt batteship tu...

alphawolf Publish time 11-2-2010 01:40 PM

boleh tolong sapa2 terangkan cmna kapal dreadnought nih.aku da wiki tp xpaham la..dia ada beza x dengan battleship masa ww1 ngn ww2?
baronista Post at 11-2-2010 09:09 http://forum.cari.com.my/images/common/back.gif

Semua dreadnought adalah battleship tapi bukan semua battleship adalah dreadnought...hehehe.
dreadnougt secara asasnya ialah 'all-big gun ship'. Iaitu senjata utama kapal terdiri dari meriam besar dengan kaliber yang sama. Sebelum HMS Dreadnought ditauliahkan pada 1906, senjata utama battleship terdiri dari pelbagai kaliber. Kelas Lord Nelson contohnya ada 4 meriam 12" dan 10 meriam 9.2". Masalahnya ialah jarak tembakan semakin jauh dan spotter tak dapat nak pastikan 'splashes' dari meriam yang mana satu bagi tujuan fire control. Juga dengan susunatur turet baru, lebih banyak meriam dapat dihalakan ke sasaran berbanding sebelumnya.

HMS Dreadnought ialah singelton dimana namanya diabadikan pada keseluruhan kelas battleship yang dibina/disiapkan selepas 1906. Kapal yang dibina sebelum itu dipanggil pre-dreadnought.

Pasal beza WW2 dengan WW1 punya battleship...tak banyak beza. Banyak WW2 battleship asalnya ialah kapal WW1 macam R dengan Queen Elizabeth class UK; Arkansas, New York, Nevada dengan Pennyslvania-class US; Gangut-class USSR; Cavour dengan Cesare class Itali; Kongo, Fuso dengan Ise-class Jepun. Kapal yang asal WW1 ni dibina semula dalam tempoh antara perang dan mengubah bentuk asal macam HMS Warspite dngan Queen Elizabeth, Cavour dengan Cesare class. Ada yang tak banyak sangat diubah. Dan survivor Peral Harbor yang paling banyak diubah sampai hilang rupa asal.

Satu generasi BB masa WW2 ialah treaty ships yang dibina berdasarkan Perjanjian Washington dan London...kapal2 ni biasanya banyak compromise dan had...contohnya meriam takleh lebih 14" dan berat takleh lebih 35000 tan. Contohnya macam King George V class, Littorio class dengan Dunkerque class. Ada jugak yang claim ikut had tapi menipu...contohnya Littorio class dengan uh, Bismarck! Turut dalam generasi antara perang ni ialah kapal macam Nelson-class UK, California, Idaho dengan Colorado class US, Nagato class Jepun.

Last sekali ialah kapal generasi pasca Perjanjian...ni semua buat ikut suka hati masing2 macam Yamato, Iowa.....

Okeh beza utama WW1 dengan WW2 ships
1. Kapal WW1 slow...dalam 21-25 knots aje..kapal WW2 lagi laju antara 27-35 knots
2. Meriam sekunder kapal WW1 banyak letak dalam casemate....angle tembakan tak menarik. Meriam sekunder WW2 (termasuk kapal WW1 yang dibina semula) letak kat turet...dalam kes US terutamanya, meriam sekunder adalah dual-purpose.
3. Kapal ww2 banyak giler short-range full-auto AA guns.

alphawolf Publish time 11-2-2010 01:43 PM

52# OSMANLI

Tau ke takut? Tapi memang tu satu sebabnya.....

Anyway SMS Goeben aka Yavuz Sultan Selim aka Yavuz ialah antara dreadnought-type terlama berkhidmat; antara 1911 hingga 1954 dan hanya dilupuskan tahun 1973!

OSMANLI Publish time 11-2-2010 02:09 PM

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Goeben in the Bosporus in 1914

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Kaiser Wilhelm II visiting Goeben in October 1917

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OSMANLI Publish time 11-2-2010 02:13 PM

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Formasi 4 buah kapal dari Yavuz class (frigate) http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e4/MEKO_200_TN.jpg/800px-MEKO_200_TN.jpg

OSMANLI Publish time 11-2-2010 02:21 PM

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Imperatritsa Mariya class battleship (Imperial Russian Navy)

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The Poltava

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Black Sea Fleet's battleship brigade in line ahead led by the Ioann Zlatoust

exocet Publish time 11-2-2010 02:27 PM

#29 aw79

#27 OSMANLI

That's way aku suka HMS MALAYA....byk history (eg pau duit raja2 melayu utk buat menatang ni), lagi 1 pasal dia ni class battlecruiser, hebat!

OSMANLI Publish time 11-2-2010 02:34 PM

#29 aw79

#27 OSMANLI

That's way aku suka HMS MALAYA....byk history (eg pau duit raja2 melayu utk buat menatang ni), lagi 1 pasal dia ni class battlecruiser, hebat!
exocet Post at 11-2-2010 14:27 http://eforum3.cari.com.my/images/common/back.giftapi sayang... HMS MALAYA lah yang bawak khlifah terakhir umat islam keluar dari turki...

yaminz Publish time 11-2-2010 02:52 PM

51# alphawolf

Besala british, da la duit tu diorg xpulangkan... burn camtu jea...

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