Keupayaan Serangan Darat TLDM
Salah satu bentuk bantuan TLDM kepada TD adalah bantuan pengangkutan. Bagaimana dgn bantuan tembakan. Apa pendapat saudara2 jika TLDM ada sistem meriam dan peluru yg digandakan jaraknya utk NGFS, dan adakah perolehan SSM utk kapal permukaan dan kapal selam di masa akan dtg bakal mengambil kira keupayaan serangan ke atas sasaran darat?Balas #1 jazim\ catat
NGS TLDM bermula dari KD Pelanduk bedil waktu emergency 1, diteruskan oleh KD Hang Tuah (1) dan (2) waktu emergency dan konfrontasi, tapi tak taulah lepas tu dengan merian 76mm dan 57mm ada tak keupayaan NGS digunakan lagi.Jadi kecuali guna land attack missile saya sangsi ada ke keupayaan NGS dengan hanya harapkan 76mm dan 57mm aja...berapa jauh boleh pergi fasal NGS kena ada standoff capabilty..
Tapi dengan aset yang ada, mana satu land attack misil yang kapal2 kita boleh pakai, habaq mai sikit.. Ha'ah, aku musykil gak .... unless guna heli utk tujuan aerial scouting / recce, not much laaaa ... .............................. menarik isu...ni...tapia ku tak tau sangat...terangkan lg lg naval gun support nih untuk TLDM, sangat2 terhad. malah rasanya takde langsungpon sebab meriam kat kapal TLDMsemuanya kecik2 jer. yang besar2 semua dah kena pencen dah. dah jadi pak guard muzium :lol:
walobagaimanapon, ada peluru meriam yg bijak, spt Davide dan Volcano 76mm shell yg boleh bantai sasaran dgn tepat. tapi faktor kos, kuasa tembak dan jangkauan operasi perlu dipertimbangkan. kalo peluru meriam tu bijak, kuasa tembak akan berkurangan sebab bahan letupan dlm peluru meriam kena dikurangkan untuk memuatkan penderia, litar elektronik, bateri dan sebagainya. admittedly, a high rate of fire will saturate and destroy the target but then, the cost factor kicks in. smart shell is expensive. as an example, a smart 155mm shell can cost around USD$1,000 to USD$94,000 but an ordinary 155mm shell's price tag is lesser than USD$200.pastuh pulak, 76mm shells can only go so far. its maximum range is between 20-30km (depends on the gun version). Peluru Meriam jenis Taming Sari boleh pakai tak TLDM gan TUDM dah dpt mcm2..TDM bila nak dpt barang baru plak? TLDM gan TUDM dah dpt mcm2..TDM bila nak dpt barang baru plak?
asher Post at 17-9-2009 12:42 http://eforum2.cari.com.my/images/common/back.gif
sian kan........... bagi la plak tdm shopping sakan......... hari tu ada aku dgr nak buat coordinate attack ke apa ... nak wat markas operasi bersama supaya sesuatu serangan tu boleh combine ke 3 tiga cabang tentera .. pastu senyap plak ..
kalo ada koordinasi darat , laut dan udara, aku rasa sesuatu serangan tu lebih berkesan .. mana yg navy tak leh sampai akan di cover dgn air force dan darat .. Tempur mentioned that the Indian Scorpenes will be getting the SM-40 Block III Exocet with a 180km range.It has a land attack capability(?)Hopefully the TLDM will be getting it. Hopefully the TLDM will be getting it.
i hope so, but the question is when did get those thing????
1. Due to budget constraint, there is difficult to get that kind of missile
2. How about the TLDM doctrine???
3. Opposition leader reaction
4.Neighbor reaction
the 4 reasons above maybe the scenario of MAlaysia in arms deal nowadays, but that thing is good for the sake of TLDM and country............ mm40 block 3 tu masih trial lagi rasenya..belum inducted dlm feench navy lagi...trial customer kot..m'sia pulak always tunggu dah certified workable...tapi kalau nak tukar kena modified ke itu scorpene .. kita selalu lupa yg sebenarnya SSM dengan land attack capability nih agak terhad sebenarnya. selalunya ada 3 cara SSM acquire sasaran darat iaitu GPS, inertial nav dan radar.
GPS problem dia ketepatan dia adalah dalam julat 10 hingga 50 meter (ketepatan 1 meter ke bawah tuh untuk US dgn geng rapat dia jer) dan signal dia sgt mudah untuk dijam. Inertial nav pulak prone to drifting effect terutamanya kalo SSM dilancarkan daripada jarak yg jauh. radar pulak terdedah kpd ground clutter + background clutter. faktor nih penting sebab SSM fly rendah pastuh sasarannya selalunya terhimpit di celah2 bangunan.
untuk fungsi Land Attack, SSM akan diberikan koordinat GPS dan koordinat untuk inertial nav sebelum dilancarkan. pasd lancar, SSM nih akan terbang dengan ikut GPS punya signal yg dierima. dah dekat baru la dia mula ground hugging flight. kalo GPS kena jam, guidance system akan revert kpd inertial nav. bila dah dekat sasaran baru la radar dihidupkan dan sasaran dikenalpasti dan dilock. the rest as they say, is history.
the bad news is SSM carry quite a small warhead/s that it need to have pinpoint accuracy in order to effectively destroy a target- something which commercial GPS and inertial GPS cannot deliver. then there is the question of target acquisition. SSM radar is designed to acquire a ship in the middle of the ocean which is a very easy task as the ship will stand out like a sore thumb. trying to acquire a land target is a different story altogether. not only the guidance system has to filter data amid heavy radar ground clutter, it also has to filter and find the target amid heavy background clutter. imagine the guidance system trying to do this while the missile is flying at Mach 0.98.
most people will go gaga when told that certain SSM can avoid islands while dashing to its target. try task the SSM to hit a target on the other side of the ridge of a mountain andsee how dumb 'smart' SSM actually is :P 14# cmf_tin
betul...semua ingat ssm tu macam tomahawk...tembak bole tapi accuracy susah... haah la .. susah tu SSM bersifat guided, dan di pandu radar.... cruise missile bersifat guided danjelajah (daya jangkau yg jauh) dan dipandu Radar+satelit.... so accuracy lebih tepat....(btkan kalo wa salah...) :) Reply 11# awangmamat
mm 40 tu bukan sm 40, sm 39 khas utk kapal selam yg mcm kapal selam kita pkai, klau di upgrade mgkin jd sm 39 blk 2/3 x tahula. utk mm 40 blk 3 dh tntu khas utk permukaan shj dn dh tntu mmpnyai bntuk srangan mcm tomahawk (bleh serang darat) Exo MM40 Block III yg bakal diperoleh oleh RMN adalah versi cruise land attack..tapi kena tunggu Gowind selesai ditauliah kedlm TLDM le Exo MM40 Block III yg bakal diperoleh oleh RMN adalah versi cruise land attack..tapi kena tunggu Gow ...
areguard Post at 11-10-2011 10:24 http://mforum.cari.com.my/images/common/back.gif
Kelas lekiu tak boleh taruh ke MM40 Block III ? Bagaimana pulak dgn kelas kasturi & kelas laksamana?