alien7749 Publish time 12-8-2008 12:27 PM

Question about MiG-29N

I've a chat with my friend recently, which he is a sub-supplier to ATSC. He once had a talk with ATSC Engineer. According to him, actually, a very few of our MiG-29 are combat capable. While others are only airworthy condition. Anybody can confirm this?

tiongman777 Publish time 12-8-2008 01:37 PM

Reply #1 alien7749's post

The aircraft maybe combat capable, but are our fighter pilots combat capable too? For that matter, are our entire airforce capable as well?

innocentti Publish time 12-8-2008 01:42 PM

Reply #2 tiongman777's post

this is a question or simply a statement from you?:o

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tin Publish time 12-8-2008 01:49 PM

Reply #1 alien7749's post

tengok jugak depa punya definition of combat capable tuh.

kengkadang depa ni memacam ndaknya.

misalannya radar. radar MiG-29N ni idak le sehebat MKM. so kira tak la combat capable macam MKM.

satu lagi contoh MiG-29 ni interceptor. so, dia idak le combat capable sangat bila kena buat misi bom mengebom nih.

tin Publish time 12-8-2008 01:51 PM

Reply #2 tiongman777's post

our air force are not entirely combat capable.

some are cooks, some are clerks, some are techno geeks and some are engineers. there's even those who, like you, assume and presume things.:lol:

[ Last edited bytin at 12-8-2008 01:56 PM ]

tangopapa Publish time 12-8-2008 03:11 PM

Balas #5 tin\ catat

same to you :lol:

tin Publish time 12-8-2008 03:16 PM

Reply #6 tangopapa's post

and you can shed a brighter light on this issue?

tangopapa Publish time 12-8-2008 03:22 PM

Balas #7 tin\ catat

no need....feel free to be fool by answering all the question? look through the aimsight, not the target.

tangopapa Publish time 12-8-2008 03:24 PM

Balas #1 alien7749\ catat

can i confirm how many superskyhawk n f16 is "combat capable" in ur underground bunker first? :loveliness:

tin Publish time 12-8-2008 03:30 PM

Reply #8 tangopapa's post

there are more ways than one to skin a cat...

tangopapa Publish time 12-8-2008 03:34 PM

Balas #10 tin\ catat

this is still one of the ways....

alphawolf Publish time 12-8-2008 04:59 PM

Reply #5 tin's post

Because our Air Force, like many other air forces are not like the US Marines who are riflemen first and foremost ;P

areguard Publish time 12-8-2008 11:07 PM

MiG29N ni pd pandangan aku, TUDM akan deploy to the maximum service life and then retire them since by that time the su30 already enter into service, additional procurementpun mungkin su30s juga..

gancity Publish time 12-8-2008 11:21 PM

Reply #1 alien7749's post

if not ur friend mayb jobless now... for those not 100% fit are waiting for schedule maintenance :lol:

alien7749 Publish time 13-8-2008 08:40 AM

Originally posted by gancity at 12-8-2008 11:21 PM http://forum.cari.com.my/images/common/back.gif
if not ur friend mayb jobless now... for those not 100% fit are waiting for schedule maintenance :lol:

With 'tiris' and 'bocor' sindrome in our G, this could happen. Maintenance with only one eye open.

alien7749 Publish time 13-8-2008 08:46 AM

Originally posted by tin at 12-8-2008 01:49 PM http://forum.cari.com.my/images/common/back.gif
tengok jugak depa punya definition of combat capable tuh.

kengkadang depa ni memacam ndaknya.

misalannya radar. radar MiG-29N ni idak le sehebat MKM. so kira tak la combat capable macam MKM ...

you need to understand the different between combat capable and airworthy or flyable condition. An easy example is Yugoslav AF during Balkan war. All their MiG-29 are not combat capable, without a functioning radar or IRST. They can only use their GSh-30-1 cannon, and the Yugoslav AF still sending them to fight against fully capable NATO a/c. That's why the loss are very high.

alien7749 Publish time 13-8-2008 08:48 AM

Originally posted by areguard at 12-8-2008 11:07 PM http://forum.cari.com.my/images/common/back.gif
MiG29N ni pd pandangan aku, TUDM akan deploy to the maximum service life and then retire them since by that time the su30 already enter into service, additional procurementpun mungkin su30s juga..

So, the F-5E will outlast the MiG-29N. Same with other airforce, still continue to use their MiG-21 and start retiring the MiG-29. Seems that the older aircraft are built to last. Think B-52.

Periuk_api1209 Publish time 13-8-2008 08:57 AM

Originally posted by alien7749 at 12-8-2008 12:27 PM http://eforum5.cari.com.my/images/common/back.gif
I've a chat with my friend recently, which he is a sub-supplier to ATSC. He once had a talk with ATSC Engineer. According to him, actually, a very few of our MiG-29 are combat capable. While othe ...

huh..ada lagi org tanya soalan ni???

no need to answer la.....the singaporean still thinking our mig cannot fly already...biar la dorang fikir camtu..heheheheheheh only we know what happen to the mig....

Periuk_api1209 Publish time 13-8-2008 09:00 AM

Originally posted by alien7749 at 13-8-2008 08:40 AM http://eforum5.cari.com.my/images/common/back.gif


With 'tiris' and 'bocor' sindrome in our G, this could happen. Maintenance with only one eye open.

tiris, bocor....now days suma ckppasal tiris bocor..very famous words after'the' forum eh?? :lol::lol::lol:

tin Publish time 13-8-2008 09:02 AM

Reply #16 alien7749's post

if that is your definition of combat capable,

then last I heard, they are combat capable.

Most of these aircraft have just completed their scheduled 1,000 hours maintenance and overhaul.
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