thenone Publish time 13-11-2009 09:17 PM

80# guyfawke

tu la pasal, mcm yg windof kata maybe depa tgh nego kut... hehe

windof Publish time 13-11-2009 11:15 PM

dapat kapai sebiji dua pon boleh kalu nego win-win situation...

ZENC Publish time 14-11-2009 08:47 PM

lagi pun ia menepati keperluan semasa ATM...yg selalu outstation jga keamanan di luar negara heheh

pcboss Publish time 15-11-2009 03:44 PM

good news...

Malaysia's A400M to remain at US$177 mil each


MALAYSIA will not have to fork out extra money for the four Airbus Military A400M air-lifters that it signed for in 2005. This means that the Malaysian A400M will cost around RM600 million each, some RM43 million cheaper than the aircraft list price. The list price of the A400M is US$190 million (RM643 million).


It had been speculated that purchasing countries may have to fork out more money for the A400M than originally envisaged due to the delays to the programme and the reduced number of planes to be manufactured.

Defence Minister Datuk Seri Dr Ahmad Zahid Hamidi told Malay Mail on Wednesday that the matter was conveyed to him during meetings with officials from the Airbus Military during the Paris Air Show in June.

The government and Airbus Military signed the RM2.5 billion contract at the Langkawi International Maritime and Aerospace (Lima) 2005, for the supply and delivery of the four A400M air-lifters.

The A400M is designed to offer an increase in range and air-lift capacity compared with the current Royal Malaysian Air Force (RMAF) main air-lifter the Hercules C-130.

The A400M is capable of performing strategic operations: long range, large capacity, high-cruise speed, tactical missions rough, short and soft-field performance, autonomous ground operation, low speed/low level operations, aerial delivery and “in-theatre” tanking operations as well as receiving and dispensing fuel.

Ahmad Zahid said the first aircraft for RMAF was expected to be delivered in 2015, two years behind schedule.


Asked about the delays that had blighted the A400M project, Ahmad Zahid said the first prototype was expected to fly by year-end and the first aircraft was to be delivered to the French air force within the next three years.

Ahmad Zahid said it appeared that the project was going in the right direction for the RMAF. At the signing ceremony for the four air-lifters in 2005, Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Razak, who was then defence minister and deputy prime minister, said the new aircraft would supplement the fleet of 15 C-130 Hercules RMAF was operating.

The Hercules, he said, would continue its role until it was no longer economical to operate. As part of the offset package, Composites Technology Research Malaysia Sdn Bhd received work packages worth some RM1 billion for the design and manufacture of A400M airframe components to be delivered worldwide.

The A400M has been bedeviled by cost overruns and delivery delays over its massive turbo-prop engines. The first planes were to have been delivered at the end of this year, but the programme is running at least three years late.

The British government, one of the founding members of the A400M project, is expected to decide soon, whether to continue its participation in the programme soon.Meanwhile, Ahmad Zahid confirmed that the ministry will continue to fund the RMAF Hercules maintenance
programme.

He said the Hercules remained an important asset despite its age. He said some of the older Hercules aircraft may need an upgrade but the cost was cheaper than buying new aircraft. RMAF operates 15 Hercules aircraft, some of which have been in service since the late 70s.

hijazzains Publish time 15-11-2009 09:13 PM

Aku rasa la...RMAF ptt beli Super Hercules C130J dengan pesawat ni sbb kita dah biasa.Aku rasa rugi jugak ATM dpt A400M lambat. Sebab terbaca yang Hercules ATM dah nak lama sangat. Kalau order C130J mesti ATm dah operasi lagi awal.

A400M ni kite beli kerana style Mahathir dulu, kalo beli barangan ketenteraan, yg prioriti dpt timbal balik(transfer of technologi, barter guna kelapa sawit), sama ada barang itu berfungsi ke..kualititi ke(secara tuntasnya keupayaan ketenteraan negara) tak penting.

Contoh PT-91M, Malaysia pilih sebab Poland transfer teknologi ternak kuda!!!!
A400M bagi projek baik kat CTRM.

Tapi bende timbal balik tu bukannya baik sangat pun.Yg untung segelintir je(contohnya penternak kuda hahaha), pastu keupayaan ATM pertahankan negara tak optimum.

windof Publish time 15-11-2009 11:49 PM

Post Last Edit by windof at 15-11-2009 23:52

mesia dpt harga airbus yg baik pasai negara antara pembeli airbus yg banyak sejak jemenjak nih... air asia beli 175 a320 ngan 50 option, atm beli 4 a400m, mas akan dpt sejumlah enhanced 330 soon, significant juga jumlahnya, berserta 380 6 biji, yg disebabkan kelewatan, maka airbus kena compensate lagi.... kalu nego baiknya, mau dpt 2 biji kapai free....

thenone Publish time 16-11-2009 09:10 AM

86# windof


agak2 2 bijik tu kapal jenis mende yer.... :re:

cmf_nando Publish time 16-11-2009 01:59 PM

Wa rasa hairan kenapa harga A400m RMAF per biji akan kekal dan tak payah tangguh sikit pun cost overrun kalau ikut laporan penulis "Malaysia defence" atas, wahal south africa kancel order pasal cost per biji semakin naik. :cf:

windof Publish time 16-11-2009 02:32 PM

87# thenone 330-200...;)

thenone Publish time 16-11-2009 02:59 PM

89# windof

huhuhuhu.. mahal tu bang win.. koi nengok rege sbutir doh dekat USD200 mil... hua3x.. betuoh laa kalo airbus nak kasi pree 2 butir... hua3x..

windof Publish time 16-11-2009 05:48 PM

90# thenone

hang jangan tak terkezut juga kalu harga compensation lebih tinggi dari itu...;P

anyway.... kita mmg bertuah .... huhuhu...

cmf_nando Publish time 16-11-2009 07:21 PM

Ikut lapoan defensetalk, A400 sekarang masuk fasa "ground testing" . pastu itu 1st flight test akan jalan di akhir tahun.

Keputusan gomen teruskan program A400 ni manyak bergantung hasil test flight ni.

thenone Publish time 17-11-2009 09:24 AM

91# windof

ye ke bro? pergh.. kalo dapat 330-200 tu dua bijik mewah giler laa army kita, sure jiran-jiran sebelah jeles giler munyeh.. ;P

windof Publish time 17-11-2009 09:39 AM

93# thenone

bukan utk army daa...kalu dah delay a380 tuh, siapa lagi yg nak dapat kompensetnya? :P

yg a400 delay tuh mmg patut ler epos dpt kompenset.... rasanya maintain herga perjanjian pon salah satu ciri kompenset jugak...selain dari bagi buat komponen2 dlm mesia...

thenone Publish time 17-11-2009 10:07 AM

94# windof

mana laa tau kut2 dapat nnt army modfify jadi AWACS ke.. hehe.. takkan nak bagi kat MAS or Air Asia kut.. kalo nak buat transport utk VVIP pon cam bazir jek... hehe

guyfawke Publish time 17-11-2009 10:14 AM

95# thenone

lu cakap membazir tapi to them vvip ok gak;P...

thenone Publish time 17-11-2009 10:18 AM

96# guyfawke

kut2 Tok Najib berangan nak buat cam Air Force One kalo dapat 330-200 2 butir tu nnt .. ;P

guyfawke Publish time 17-11-2009 10:23 AM

97# thenone

Mana la tahu kan....;P

windof Publish time 17-11-2009 05:44 PM

97# thenone

huhuhu;P depa dah ada 319 dah, cukup ler....
330 mas yg ada sekarang pon dah lama, inflight entertainment pon takdak.... sedangkan la nih penumpang2 moderen semua mau lcd depan mata sorang satu... mmg patut kena replace 330 mas nih dengan yg enhanced version...

rastablank Publish time 17-11-2009 07:22 PM

Klau dapat free sebijik wat platform awacs pun cantek gak, pastu bubuh sume Thales and EADS system dlm tu, baru kacak~;P
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