Sedihnye...Hamster Sha mati lagi....(UPDATE)
Hai Semua....Sha xtau thread ni sesuai letak dekat sini @ tak. Kalau tak, hrp mod leh bantu ye...
Hamster sha jenis winter white. masa mula2 bela, dia dapat 8 ekor anak. Mungkin masa tu awal2 bela, jadi
sha takde pengalaman. Sha sedar dia pregnant, tp masa tu sha balik kampung. Bila sampai rumah, tengok perut
dia besar. So,sha taulah dia dag pegnen. Pagi esoknya dia bersalin 8 ekor anak. Sha terkejut sangat. Tak tau nak buat apa :(
Sha biarkan je dia dlm sangkar. Tak sampaisetengah hari, semua anak2 dia mati :'( :'(
sha xtau kenapa. sedih sangat tau. tapi sha sabar sbb ni pglmn pertama jadi mungkin salah sha. Lepas tu, sha pun
tanya kawan2 kat Animal Lover ni. Mereka ckp kena asingkan jantan tu dari anak-anak. Sebulan lepas kejadian, hamster
sha pegnen lagi. Tapi kali ni dia keguguran pulak. Ni memang salah sha. sha bagi dia makan gel gamat LUXOR. Ingatkan
nak bagi vitamin..hehe...Tak sangka leh keguguran. :(
Pastu, minggu lps dia pegnen lagi. Semalam dia bersalin 8 ekor. Sha cepat2 asingkan si bapak dr anak-anak. Sha letak bawah katil, kasi tempat gelap. Makan minum semua cukup. Bila tengok lepas 20 minit, mak dia makan semua anak-anak dia.
Kenapa hamster sha macm ni? Apa kesilapan sha dlm kes ni?
Sha dah pening. Sha nangis smlm sebab sedih sgt. Semua fmly sha nantikan anak2 dia. Tp xde seko pun yg selamat.
Tolonglah. Sha nak dengar pandangan sape2 yg tahu pasal hamster ni. Apa masalah hamster sha sampai dia makan
anak-anak dia. :(
[ Last edited byshachihata33 at 25-6-2008 02:32 PM ] :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( mati sebab bn kalah ke?:(
Reply #1 shachihata33's post
sha pandai gak sha jaga hamster...mcm sy nie bila jaga da kasi mkn minum pon tetap mati coz mesti gaduh dan jua kena makan dgn kucing...sy jaga tak sampai hamster tu pregnant...harap sha bersabar je...Reply #1 shachihata33's post
mati sbb sha pegang kot.. baby hamster tak leh pegang kalau baru lahir..mak hamster tu lagi paham dari kita.. maybe dia tahu anak dia sakit kot
sabar ek.. susah jgk bela hamster ni
Reply #5 passion3's post
yup, sebab sha pegang tu...aku pnh jgk pelihara hamster nih, asal mumy hamster aku branak, aku gatal tangan bagi asing sbb takut di "kanibalkan" oleh bapak hamster tu.. tapi last satu ja kena ingat, jgn bg stress mumy hamster slps branak...sbb berkemungkinan besar ia kanibalkan anaknya jgk tu klau stress... so, just take the bapak out (asingkan) n leave the mumy n newborn hamster alone.... :) masalahnya sha langsung tak sentuh anak-anak dia.sha geli nak pegang,tgk merah2 pastu bogel je ;P ;P
dia dah dekat 5 bulan sha bela. kalau ikutkan dah ada 12 anak.
Tu tak campur yg gugur.
sha nak tau, jangka hayat hamster brp tahun boleh idup?
kalau leh, sblm mati, sha nk keturunan hamster sha ni.
Tak nak bela yg keturunan baru. sha sayanggggg sgt kat
hamster sha ni. mereka ni mcm anak2 sha sendiri :( Originally posted by sedondon at 10-3-2008 10:03 PM http://forum3.cari.com.my/images/common/back.gif
mati sebab bn kalah ke?:(
bn kalah sha suke ;P jadi konklusinya asingkan bapa nya bukan ibunya? hemm idea yang baik :loveliness: Originally posted by shahhana at 10-3-2008 10:12 PM http://forum3.cari.com.my/images/common/back.gif
sha pandai gak sha jaga hamster...mcm sy nie bila jaga da kasi mkn minum pon tetap mati coz mesti gaduh dan jua kena makan dgn kucing...sy jaga tak sampai hamster tu pregnant...harap sha bersabar ...
mungkin sebab dia dapat mak yg garang kot ;P
tu yg x berani nak gaduh teruk2. sha selalu marah :$
tp sha anggap 2 ekor budak tu mcm ank sha sendiri. siap sha
sebut nama sha sbg 'mak'.sha selalu tukar bedding dia, bg mkn,
mandikan....sha x dpt bayangkan kalau dia mati. pernah seminggu
sha tinggalkan hamster dgn kakak n abg sbb sha blk kg.
pastu diorg kasi mkn je x tukar bedding n xmandikan. hamster sha
yg jantan tu berkudis kt bawah badan die. sian sangat :(
sha cuma nk tau, kenapa dia mkn ank dia? mmg hamster mcm ni ke sifat dia?
lepas ni kalau bersalin lagi sha ingat nk asingkan anak dgn mak bapak dia.
Tp sha terfikir, mcm mana nak bagi baby hmster minum kalau mak xde.
tp klu mak dia ada, dia makan. Macam mana nak buat niii? :'( :'(
Reply #10 shachihata33's post
:o maybe sbb stress kot?? sha asyik tengok@renung mumy hamster & hamster kecik tu eh?? area cage hamster tu mcm mana, bising ke, dkt jalan ke, ataupun tempat lalu lalang?average lifespan utk hamster around 3-5 tahun (klau cukup smua lah, mcm vitamin,makanan & bwk jmpa vet) Originally posted by thorgard at 10-3-2008 10:34 PM http://forum3.cari.com.my/images/common/back.gifyup, sebab sha pegang tu...aku pnh jgk pelihara hamster nih, asal mumy hamster aku branak, aku gatal tangan bagi asing sbb takut di "kanibalkan" oleh bapak hamster tu.. tapi last
Reply #13 shachihata33's post
klau sha nak jaga tanpa mumy hamster, blh tapi peluang utk berjaya tu nipis lah... (tapi try la dlu, mana tau berjaya)..jap aku upload artikel ttg cara nak jaga anak hamster CARING FOR ORPHANS:One of the most helpless feelings that a hamster owner experiences is finding a cage of pups and Mama has died - or played Houdini and disappeared.
But, there is hope. If the little ones are 12 to 14 days old they will do fine, with a little extra TLC and plenty of nourishing food. The first step, if Mama has died, is to thoroughly clean the cage. Make sure there is plenty of bedding. Since Mama isn't around to shred the toilet tissue for a nest, roll up the sleeves and have a shredding party! Place the cage in a warm location, with no drafts. If the little ones appear to be a little cold (young pups sometimes have problems maintaining body heat - that's why Mom is generally sleeping with them), place a heating pad, set on low, under the cage. Lower the water bottle so it is easy for them to reach. (As an added precaution, unflavored pedialyte can be placed in the bottle to prevent dehydration.) Fill the food dish with plenty of their normal grain/seed mix, which can be sprinkled with some powdered milk, wheat germ and/or quick oats. For added protein and sustenance, canned dog food (beef or chicken - mashed well with a fork) or boiled egg can be placed in a small saucer (one that comes in toy dish sets works well). Fresh apple will also help with hydration. Although the list of "treats" that the pups would enjoy is astronomical, the primary consideration should be to maintain a well balanced diet that remains similar to what they have been accustomed to during their short life.
If Mom has just decided to take a little private holiday, don't clean the cage (the scent should be the same as it was when she left) and set some traps for her. The commercial "Live Traps" work well, or place some grain and a special treat in a deep dish or pan and use books or pieces of lumber to build steps up to the rim of the dish. Mom will fall into the dish attempting to retrieve the "goodies" and will not be able to get out. Once Mom has returned, put fresh food in the cage and a treat. Place her back in the cage near the food. When she is ready she will find the pups - unless they find her first! Care for the pups the same as suggested above until Mama returns.
In the event the pups are 10 days or less, adoption needs to be considered since they still need "mother's milk" to survive and grow into healthy pups. There are as many methods of adopting orphans as there are breeders. The following is a method that has proven to be extremely successful. The pups will undoubtedly be cold when they are discovered. Clean all residues from the nest off the little ones and wrap them in a clean terry towel. Rub them gently to stimulate circulation - generally the gentle rubbing and warmth of ones hands will have them wiggling in no time. It is best to find an adoptive mother that has little ones a day or two older or younger. Again, make sure that all the residue of the orphan's original nest has been removed, take some of the nesting material that is around the adoptive mother and her babies and wrap it around the orphans. Continue holding them and let them wiggle around in the nesting material - the goal is to make them smell just like Mom's other pups. Entice the adoptive mom away from her nest with a special treat. Once she is busy tending to devouring the treat, place the orphans in the nest with the other babies. Make every effort to keep Mom busy for as long as possible and give the orphans time to squirm in and around their new siblings and, hopefully, smell just like them. Go away and don't disturb Mom and the babies. And, although it is tempting, don't look in the nest for at least a week.
There's no absolute guarantee that this will work - sometimes it is hard to fool hammies and they know right away that there strangers in the nest and will eliminate them.
Adoption successes are solely in the paws of the adoptive mother. If she believes that there is something wrong with the orphans, or if they aren't healthy, she will mercifully dispose of them. If she can't detect any "different smelling kids" in the nest and they are all healthy, she will probably settle right in and raise them. (Fortunately, hammie moms don't count noses - so a few more or less doesn't generally affect the quality of care they receive.
(Note: I have had Syrians successfully raise dwarf orphans. But, so far have not had a dwarf raise a Syrian. -Rusty)
Some more orphan advice...
In the event that you find yourself with a litter of pups and no mom ........
Pups 8 days and younger have a better chance of survival if you can find a "surrogate" mom. A surrogate mom is a female who has recently given birth and is nursing her own pups. There is a chance that she will accept your abandoned pups as her own but no absolute guarantee. If no surrogate mom is available you can try the following but keep in mind this works best for pups over 8 days old.
You will need "KMR" which is a milk replacer that is used for kittens but it says right on the package that it can be used for hamsters. If "KMR" is not available you can also use either baby formula or evaporated milk ( 50%evaporated milk mixed with 50%warm water).
For pups from birth to approximately 12 days old you have to feed them around the clock with an eyedropper. Feed them 3 drops of "KMR" approximately ever hour. Once they begin eating solid food in addition to nursing you can drop the amount of "KMR" in the eyedropper to approximately .5-1ml. and now feed them still around the clock but every 2- 3 hours. Continue this schedule until they are 21 days when even pups with a mom stop nursing completely.
An important step that you can't forget is that after each feeding you gotta stimulate each pup to urinate and defacate just like the mom would do. To do this gently rub each pup's gential and anal area with a warm,moist cloth.
Pups lose body heat real fast without the mom to keep them warm so supply extra nesting material in the form of white,unscented toilet paper and place a heating pad under the tank/cage. Keep the temp on a low setting.
Pups also have a tendency to dehydrate rapidly so when you see them start to eat the dry food that is scattered around the tank/cage you can also supply them with a piece of peeled apple to prevent dehydration. Also when the pups are old enough to drink from the hanging water bottle fill it with water and unflavored pedialyte (50%water/50%pedialyte). This will also help prevent dehydration.
Gotta add this because it's important. When you feed the pups with the eyedropper be real careful and do it gently never forcing the fluid because it's real easy for a pup to inhale the liquid and once it's in the lungs it can kill the pup.
Hopefully you will never have a litter of pups abandoned by the mom but if you do always remember it's possible to hand feed them the way I described and yeah it's hard work but worth the effort to save the little dudes from death. Take care comrades. The Rebel is over and out.
cdt to http://www.hamsterific.com/
Reply #12 kmkd's post
uhuh, sbb bapak hamster ni asal nampak baby hamster, trus mo di ngap buat makan tengah hari :L...kdg Originally posted by shachihata33 at 10-3-2008 10:48 PM http://mforum.cari.com.my/images/common/back.gifmungkin sebab dia dapat mak yg garang kot ;P
tu yg x berani nak gaduh teruk2. sha selalu marah :$
tp sha anggap 2 ekor budak tu mcm ank sha sendiri. siap sha
sebut nama sha sbg 'mak'.s ...
cuba plak cara ni.. kalo sha nampak atau suspect hamster sha tu dah prenant, trus asingkan bapak dia tu..jgn tunggu dah terberanak baru nak asingkan. biar dia selesa dok dlm cage tu sorang2 hingga dia selamat melahirkan.pastu cara sha letak cage kat tmpt gelap tu dah cukup bagus.. lepas dia dah beranak tu ..pastikan cage dia tu jauh dari anasir2 jahat.mcm semut ke..(sbb kadang2 semut dtg sbb bau darah)...dan pastikan mkn dan minum diberi secukupnya..so takdelah sha asik nak jenguk dia jer.. takat nak cek mkn /minum 2 ari sekali tu boleh la.. sebelum dia lahirkan anak, sha bolehlaa selalu bersihkan bedding dia sbb bile dia dah beranak jer..shah dah tak boleh nak tukar2 bedding dia walaupn bau hangit sekalipun.kalo nak tukar jugak, buang separuh je yg dah basah tu..pastu tambah yg baru sket. bedding disekeliling anak dia tu jgn diusik.biar dia ada bau2 lagi..
so far puff dah bela syirian,takde masalah bab2 mak mkn anak ke hape.. cuma risau gak sbb skang puff baru cuba bela winter white ni tp tengok pd gaya, yg betina tu garang sgt la..asik kacau si jantan tu jer.si jantan tu selalu terjerit2..heheh..tataolah menjadik ke tak budak 2 ekor tu..:loveliness:
Okla sha..apa2 pun selamat mencubaaa.... Originally posted by thorgard at 10-3-2008 10:49 PM http://forum3.cari.com.my/images/common/back.gif
:o maybe sbb stress kot?? sha asyik tengok@renung mumy hamster & hamster kecik tu eh?? area cage hamster tu mcm mana, bising ke, dkt jalan ke, ataupun tempat lalu lalang?average lifespan utk hamster around 3-5 tahun (klau cukup smua lah, mcm vitamin,makanan & bwk jmpa vet)
lepas dia bersalin, sha terus simpan dlm bilik. senyap dan gelap. dia bersalin pukul 7.40 malam pada 9/3/2008.
meninggal dalam pukul 8.30-9.00 pm. sha larang adik2 tengok hamster tu. bapak dia sha letak kat luar.
vitamin apa eh nak bg? sha xpernah bg vitamin. sha bg makan carrot, buah2, sengkuang, whiskas.
xpnh bwk jumpa vet. tapi kalau tengok dr luar, nampak sihat dan subur. sebab dah 4 kali pegnen.
2 kali gugur, 2 kali selamat bersalin. tapi semua mati. sedihnye :(