Mawlay Publish time 3-4-2009 02:42 PM

Originally posted by HangPC2 at 27-4-2007 09:04 http://eforum3.cari.com.my/images/common/back.gif
PAK FA coming soon :loveliness:

urgh :loveliness:ini ke PAK FA tuh :o


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areguard Publish time 9-4-2009 10:00 AM

Actuallu wa jumpa dari Thomson CSF Optronique..about how Thypoon boleh detect dan engage stealth combat aircraft, in this case the Lightning menggunakan kombinasi IRST, passive radar, MIDS etc..anybody can story a bit about this? Boleh kah same principle digunapakai untuk F22?

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jofizo Publish time 9-4-2009 11:40 AM

tak paham baca rajah tuh.......... leh citer sikit........ :lol:

dcc01 Publish time 9-4-2009 12:18 PM

Boleh Caya ke Pak Sam kata F22 tu stealth, sedang Nighthawk(sorry klu silap)
pun leh kene tembak jatuh, lu fikirla sendiri.;P

areguard Publish time 9-4-2009 12:32 PM

Reply #43 jofizo's post

Well kalau hang tengok tatarajah kat atas tu (mcm UPSR lak:loveliness: ), jelas bahawa pesawat tempur EADS Thypoon dapat mendetect pesawat halimunan buatan Lockheed Martin menggunakan mod IRST dan radar berbentuk pasif..itu yg wa tanya tu..
Adakah ini bakal terbokti bener??
Kalau bener maknakata F35 yg diagung-agungkan itu ada achiless heel le..:P

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hyazinth79 Publish time 18-4-2009 12:29 PM

Balas #29 mentosonline\ catat

apahal mamat ni meroyan tak tentu pasal, bukannya kita kata pesawat dia yang crash, klu dah poyo tu mmg poyo la jawabnya.:lol: :lol: :lol:

hyazinth79 Publish time 18-4-2009 12:32 PM

dorang pakai software pirate gak kot

areguard Publish time 18-4-2009 07:52 PM

Reply #46 hyazinth79's post

Depa mmg ada inherent problem tu..takmau kalah dan dia je yg terhebat..mental manusia terkepung..:shakehead3:

razhar Publish time 18-4-2009 08:48 PM

Reply #45 areguard's post

bai,visual contact tu takat mana boleh g?:lol: :lol: :lol:

areguard Publish time 18-4-2009 09:37 PM

Reply #49 razhar's post

Bai, kaedah detection dlm schematics tu melalui passive radar dan IRST (infra-red sensor) bukn mark 1 eyeball..actually MiG29N kita dah lama pakai IRST utk jejak pesawat musuh tanpa activate radar..

razhar Publish time 18-4-2009 09:41 PM

Reply #50 areguard's post

mmg le..fulcrum dah lama pakai IRST ni..yg wa tekankan kat sini..JARAK....boleh tak IRST ni buat visual contact untuk jarak2 yg melebihi jarak bedilan AAM?:lol: :lol:

razhar Publish time 18-4-2009 09:45 PM

Reply #50 areguard's post

tentang passive radar plak..dia berkerja secara optimum KALU pesawat2 tu mengeluarkan 'signal2' atau pun radiasi2 atau apa2 saja yg membolehkan receiver2 kat passive radar tu 'tangkap'....kalu radar signature dah kecik...cam mana passive radar nak kesan?


mungkin lobai tin boleh keluarkan hukum...;P ;P ;P ;P ;P ;P

areguard Publish time 19-4-2009 12:00 AM

Reply #52 razhar's post

Wa bukan ahli dlm bidang2 aerial battlespace management ni...Tin atau Venez yg terer bab2 ni:P

yaminz Publish time 19-4-2009 02:16 AM

Balas #33 Debmey\ catat

Sure can, when raptor launch it missile, sure it can be tracked...
but make sure u survived first... ;P ;P ;P

yaminz Publish time 19-4-2009 02:20 AM

Balas #42 areguard\ catat

Kalo radar pasif, besa nyer typhoon akan tgu signal drp raptor, mostly biler raptor nak direct missile k typhoon.

inquisitor Publish time 19-4-2009 03:09 AM

Balas #52 razhar\ catat

'kalu radar signature dah kecik...cam mana passive radar nak kesan?'

hmm? apa kaitan radar signature dgn passive radar?

if im not mistaken, small radar signature ni untuk evades active radar.

passive radar pulak untuk detect pesawat yang pakai active radar, with a few advantages.

1. dia dpt kesan musuh dahulu.
2. dia dpt lari dari dikesan musuh.

razhar Publish time 19-4-2009 03:23 AM

Reply #56 inquisitor's post

betul bai..untuk membolehkan dikesan,objek itu mesti mengeluarkan emission dulu kan??? butul tak? sebab tu passive radar ni payah nak dikesan,pasal dia tak keluarkan emission..



apa2 pun,kita tunggu lobai tin keluarkan hujah dia...

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tin Publish time 19-4-2009 07:48 AM

Reply #51 razhar's post

AAM mana boleh membedil, jeneral kuceng :lol:

anyway, takkan la jeneral kuceng lupa yang IRST ni mcm mata, detection capability depends on the size of the target. satu jet pejuang boleh dikesan dlm 45km. kalo aircraft carrier, boleh kesan dlm 80-100km.

jeneral kuceng sure tido masa briefing harituh nih.;P

tin Publish time 19-4-2009 07:53 AM

Reply #52 razhar's post

uiksss... sejak bila wa boleh wat fatwa nih? ;P

fatwa nih ulamak jer yang boleh. wa ular dlm semak jer :$

anyway, radar pasif boleh detect signal atau radiasi yang kecik2, pastuh dibandingkan dengan signal yang ada dlm threat database dia.

alphawolf Publish time 19-4-2009 09:59 AM

Ular dalam semak?:lol:

Aku nak lontarkan satu senario air-to air combat...camne kalau combatants dua2 pakai stealth aircraft?
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