Vijaya Publish time 12-9-2005 06:17 PM

Buddhism in Bahasa Malaysia

Buddhism in Bahasa Malaysia
http://dhamma-bm.tripod.com/
FOR NON MUSLIM ONLY

Adm_Cheng_Ho Publish time 14-9-2005 09:32 PM

This is great!

For reference use I suppose. That way, muslim students can also refer to it.

shuling76 Publish time 7-12-2005 10:19 AM

Reply #2 Adm_Cheng_Ho's post

ya... I agree... because me oso dun understanding chinese wording
:)

orangbesi Publish time 9-12-2005 10:23 PM

salam

mungkin ada yg marah sebab saya bagi SALAM
walaupun utk yg non muslim
tapi bagi saya hanya TUHAN yg tahu siapakah yg MUSLIM
bukan manusia, jadi siapa yg berbuat baik maka dapatlah dia kebaikan

terima kasih krn memberi bahan bacaan utk saya ttg BUDDHA
sama seperti agama lain atau kitab lain
yg saya pun turut membacanya
nanti bolehlah kita berbincang bersama

SEMOGA KITA MENDAPAT KEBAIKAN

ariyamusafir Publish time 14-12-2005 06:50 AM

Originally posted by orangbesi at 9-12-2005 10:23 PM
salam

mungkin ada yg marah sebab saya bagi SALAM
walaupun utk yg non muslim
tapi bagi saya hanya TUHAN yg tahu siapakah yg MUSLIM
bukan manusia, jadi siapa yg berbuat baik maka dapatlah dia k ...
:)

orangbesi Publish time 17-12-2005 10:23 PM

salam

maaf ya kurang AKAL utk berbicara
sebab dalam FORUM ini
lebih banyak KETENANGAN

cuma saya nak tanya
sebab apa BUDDHA pergi bertapa
macam MUHAMMAD RASULLULLAH tu.......
yg saya sendiri tak tahu
apa yg menyebabkan dia mampu pergi bertapa
ADAKAH BENAR KERANA........

Vijaya Publish time 18-12-2005 10:34 AM

Originally posted by orangbesi at 17-12-2005 10:23 PM
salam

maaf ya kurang AKAL utk berbicara
sebab dalam FORUM ini
lebih banyak KETENANGAN

cuma saya nak tanya
sebab apa BUDDHA pergi bertapa
macam MUHAMMAD RASULLULLAH tu.......
yg saya send ...
saudara, try to read the books on the life of the buddha...
mengapa baginda meninggalkan istana yg mewah,isteri yg cantik,anak yg comel......

orangbesi Publish time 14-1-2006 09:46 PM

salam

hanya nak mengucapkan selamat utk forumners buddhism
sebab saya masih gagal utk berbicara
dan selamat utk forumners yg tersetia, mr vijaya

dan hanya SATU PERTANYAAN
hanya satu

BETULKAH TIADA TUHAN? ? ? ? ?

Vijaya Publish time 14-1-2006 10:12 PM

Originally posted by orangbesi at 14-1-2006 09:46 PM
salam

hanya nak mengucapkan selamat utk forumners buddhism
sebab saya masih gagal utk berbicara
dan selamat utk forumners yg tersetia, mr vijaya

dan hanya SATU PERTANYAAN
hanya satu

BET ...
Buddha, teacher of gods and men.
gods,deva-deva org india...brahma..indra tetapi umat Buddha tidak melihat mrk sebagai pencipta dunia atau manusia. malah, Buddha pernah kata brahma hanya menganggap diri sendiri sebagai pencipta dunia.

tak kisah la ada tuhan atau tidak , sebab tak ada kaitan dgn kehidupan harian umat buddha. umat buddha percaya manusia sendiri merupakan refuge sendiri.

orangbesi Publish time 17-1-2006 08:50 PM

salam

boleh tahu apa bezanya diantara pencipta dunia
dan pencipta yg lain sebagaimana pegangan saudara?

dan apa kaitannya dgn syurga dan neraka
mengikut pegangan umat saudara?

terima kasih

CintaMalaysia Publish time 2-10-2006 01:13 AM

Originally posted by orangbesi at 17-1-2006 08:50 PM
salam

boleh tahu apa bezanya diantara pencipta dunia
dan pencipta yg lain sebagaimana pegangan saudara?

dan apa kaitannya dgn syurga dan neraka
mengikut pegangan umat saudara?

terima kasih

dalam ajaran buddhism, tiada konsep pencipta dunia.. wahlaupun kewujudan dewa-dewi, hantu dan sekalian diakui, tetapi mereka bukan pencipta dunia..

buddhism tidak mementingkan siapa yang pencipta dunia. sebaliknya, buddhism menekankan enlightenment.. sebagai contohnya, walaupun saudharta gautama dapat enlighten dan memahami segalanya berkenaan dunia ini, tetapi dia tidak dapat mengubah apa yang telah berlaku dalam dunia..

ajaran buddhism hanya dapat menjadi guidance kepada seseorang untuk mencapai enlightenment, tapi samada seseorang tu boleh berjaya bergantung kepada usaha dan fate seseorang tu sendiri.

ini bermakna, seseorang tu harus memahami apa yang diajar kepadanya dengan teliti. Seseorang itu tidak harus menerima apa-apa secara buta tuli,sepatutnya perlu mentafsirkannya dengan teliti mengikut ajaran buddhism yang sebenar..

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Sephiroth Publish time 5-10-2006 08:52 AM

by orangbesi   

dan hanya SATU PERTANYAAN
hanya satu

BETULKAH TIADA TUHAN? ? ? ? ?   

Bila Gautama Buddha ditanya soalan yg sama, jawapan dia adalah .... lihat dibawah :

tickmeoff Publish time 1-2-2007 09:18 AM

Originally posted by orangbesi at 14-1-2006 09:46 PM
salam


dan hanya SATU PERTANYAAN
hanya satu

betulkah tiada Tuhan?

Soalan ini pernah diajukan kepada Buddha oleh beberapa orang. Buddha tidak menjawab soalan tersebut sebab:

1. Jika Buddha cakap wujud Tuhan , Buddha hanya berbohong (mengikut kepercayaan Buddhist , memang tiada Pencipta)

2. Jika Buddha cakap tidak wujud Tuhan, orang yang mengajukan soalan tersebut akan berbahas dengan buddha sampai kiamat (sebab orang yang percaya kepada Tuhan akan tetap percaya walaupun diberitahu sebaliknya)

jadi, Buddha hanya berdiam bila diajukan soalan tersebut. tidak perlu dibahaskan .. dan membuang masa.

ariyamusafir Publish time 2-2-2007 05:13 PM

I believe many confuse and misinterpret as I believe the Buddha kept silent on the inquiry of if there is a "soul", not if there is a god.

by Venerable Dr. K. Sri Dhammananda Nayaka Maha Thera

Is there an Eternal Soul?
Belief in an eternal soul is a misconception of the human consciousness.

Soul-Theories

With regard to the soul theory, there are three kinds of teachers in the world:

The first teacher teaches the existence of an eternal ego-entity that outlasts death: He is the eternalist.
The second teacher teaches a temporary ego-entity which becomes annihilated at death: He is the materialist.
The third teacher teaches neither an eternal nor a temporary ego-entity: He is the Buddha.

The Buddha teaches that what we call ego, self, soul, personality, etc., are merely conventional terms that do not refer to any real, independent entity. According to Buddhism there is no reason to believe that there is an eternal soul that comes from heaven or that is created by itself and that will transmigrate or proceed straight away either to heaven or hell after death. Buddhists cannot accept that there is anything either in this world or any other world that is eternal or unchangeable. We only cling to ourselves and hope to find something immortal. We are like children who wish to clasp a rainbow. To children, a rainbow is something vivid and real; but the grown-ups know that it is merely an illusion caused by certain rays of light and drops of water. The light is only a series of waves or undulations that have no more reality than the rainbow itself.

Man has done well without discovering the soul. He shows no signs of fatigue or degeneration for not having encountered any soul. No man has produced anything to promote mankind by postulating a soul and its imaginary working. Searching for a soul in man is like searching for something in a dark empty room. But the poor man will never realize that what he is searching for is not in the room. It is very difficult to make such a person understand the futility of his search.

Those who believe in the existence of a soul are not in a position to explain what and where it is. The Buddha's advice is not to waste our time over this unnecessary speculation and devote our time to strive for our salvation. When we have attained perfection then we will be able to realize whether there is a soul or not. A wandering ascetic named Vacchagotta asked the Buddha whether there was an Atman (self) or not. The story is as follows:

Vacchagotta comes to the Buddha and asks:
'Venerable Gotama, is there an Atman ?
The Buddha is silent.
'Then Venerable Gotama, is there no Atman?
Again the Buddha is silent.
Vacchagotta gets up and goes away.

After the ascetic has left, Ananda asks the Buddha why He did not answer Vacchagotta's question. The Buddha explains His position:

'Ananda, when asked by Vacchagotta, the Wanderer: 'Is there a Self?, if I had answered: 'There is a Self'. Then, Ananda, that would be siding with those recluses and brahmanas who hold the eternalist theory (sassata-vada).'

'And Ananda, when asked by the Wanderer: 'Is there no Self?, if I had answered: 'There is no Self', then that would be siding with those recluses and brahmanas who hold the annihilationist theory (uccedavada)'.

'Again, Ananda, when asked by Vacchagotta: 'Is there a Self? If I had answered: 'There is a Self', would that be in accordance with my knowledge that all dhammas are without Self?

'Surely not, Sir.'

'And again, Ananda, when asked by the Wanderer: 'Is there no Self?', if I had answered: 'There is no Self', then that would have created a greater confusion in the already confused Vacchagotta. For he would have thought: Formerly indeed I had an Atman (Self), but now I haven't got one.' (Samyutta Nikaya).

The Buddha regarded soul-speculation as useless and illusory. He once said, 'Only through ignorance and delusion do men indulge in the dream that their souls are separate and self-existing entities. Their heart still clings to Self. They are anxious about heaven and they seek the pleasure of Self in heaven. Thus they cannot see the bliss of righteousness and the immortality of truth.' Selfish ideas appear in man's mind due to his conception of Self and craving for existence.

Anatta: The Teaching of No-Soul

The Buddha countered all soul-theory and soul-speculation with His Anatta doctrine. Anatta is translated under various labels: No-soul, No-self, egolessness, and soullessness.

To understand the Anatta doctrine, one must understand that the eternal soul theory _ 'I have a soul' _ and the material theory _ 'I have no soul' _are both obstacles to self-realization or salvation. They arise from the misconception 'I AM'. Hence, to understand the Anatta doctrine, one must not cling to any opinion or views on soul-theory; rather, one must try to see things objectively as they are and without any mental projections. One must learn to see the so-called 'I' or Sour or Self for what it really is : merely a combination of changing forces. This requires some analytical explanation.

The Buddha taught that what we conceive as something eternal within us, is merely a combination of physical and mental aggregates or forces (pancakkhandha), made up of body or matter (rupakkhandha), sensation (vedanakkhandha), perception (sannakkhandha), mental formations (samkharakkhandha) and consciousness (vinnanakkhandha). These forces are working together in a flux of momentary change; they are never the same for two consecutive moments. They are the component forces of the psycho-physical life. When the Buddha analyzed the psycho-physical life, He found only these five aggregates or forces. He did not find any eternal soul. However, many people still have the misconception that the soul is the consciousness. The Buddha declared in unequivocal terms that consciousness depends on matter, sensation, perception and mental formations and that is cannot exist independently of them.

The Buddha said, 'The body, O monks, is not the Self. Sensation is not the Self. Perception is not the Self. The mental constructions are not the Self. And neither is consciousness the Self. Perceiving this, O monks, the disciple sets no value on the body, or on sensation, or on perception, or on mental constructions, or on consciousness. Setting no value of them, he becomes free of passions and he is liberated. The knowledge of liberation arises there within him. And then he knows that he has done what has to be done, that he has lived the holy life, that he is no longer becoming this or that, that his rebirth is destroyed.' (Anatta-Lakkhana Sutta).

The Anatta doctrine of the Buddha is over 2500 years old. Today the thought current of the modern scientific world is flowing towards the Buddha's Teaching of Anatta or No-Soul. In the eyes of the modern scientists, man is merely a bundle of ever-changing sensations. Modern physicists say that the apparently solid universe is not, in reality, composed of solid substance at all, but actually a flux of energy. The modern physicist sees the whole universe as a process of transformation of various forces of which man is a mere part. The Buddha was the first to realize this.

A prominent author, W.S. Wily, once said, 'The existence of the immortal in man is becoming increasingly discredited under the influence of the dominant schools of modern thought.' The belief in the immortality of the soul is a dogma that is contradicted by the most solid, empirical truth.

The mere belief in an immortal soul, or the conviction that something in us survives death, does not make us immortal unless we know what it is that survives and that we are capable of identifying ourselves with it. Most human beings choose death instead of immortality by identifying themselves with that which is perishable and impermanent by clinging stubbornly to the body or the momentary elements of the present personality, which they mistake for the soul or the essential form of life.

About those researches of modern scientists who are now more inclined to assert that the so-called 'Soul' is no more than a bundle of sensations, emotions, sentiments, all relating to the physical experiences, Prof. James says that the term 'Soul' is a mere figure of speech to which no reality corresponds.

It is the same Anatta doctrine of the Buddha that was introduced in the Mahayana school of Buddhism as Sunyata or voidness. Although this concept was elaborated by a great Mahayana scholar, Nagarjuna, by giving various interpretations, there is no extraordinary concept in Sunyata far different from the Buddha's original doctrine of Anatta.

The belief in soul or Self and the Creator God, is so strongly rooted in the minds of many people that they cannot imagine why the Buddha did not accept these two issues which are indispensable to many religions. In fact some people got a shock or became nervous and tried to show their emotion when they heard that the Buddha rejected these two concepts. That is the main reason why to many unbiased scholars and psychologists Buddhism stands unique when compared to all the other religions. At the same time, some other scholars who appreciate the various other aspects of Buddhism thought that Buddhism would be enriched by deliberately re-interpreting the Buddha word 'Atta' in order to introduce the concept of Soul and Self into Buddhism. The Buddha was aware of this unsatisfactoriness of man and the conceptual upheaval regarding this belief.

All conditioned things are impermanent,
All conditioned things are Dukka - Suffering,
All conditioned or unconditioned things (dhamma)
are soulless or selfless. (Dhammapada 277, 278, 279)

There is a parable in our Buddhist texts with regard to the belief in an eternal soul. A man, who mistook a moving rope for a snake, became terrified by that fear in his mind. Upon discovery that it was only a piece of rope, his fear subsided and his mind became peaceful. The belief in an eternal soul is equated to the rope - man's imagination.



http://www.tipitaka.net/pali/ebo ... n%20Eternal%20Soul?

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Sephiroth Publish time 5-2-2007 08:30 AM

Originally posted by tickmeoff at 1-2-2007 09:18 AM


Soalan ini pernah diajukan kepada Buddha oleh beberapa orang. Buddha tidak menjawab soalan tersebut sebab:

1. Jika Buddha cakap wujud Tuhan , Buddha hanya berbohong (mengikut kepercayaan ...

Jangan buat andaian sendiri, boleh tak?

Anyway, saya malas nak cakap banyak. Hanya nak tanya satu soalan shj kpd ahli2 Buddhists yg bijak macam katak dibawah tempurung di sini. ;)

Persoalan saya mudah je ... "Kalau manusia tak ada Roh, utk apa dia susah payah cuba menbebaskan diri sendiri dr ikatan Samsara?"

Bagi ku, samada kamu fikir ada Tuhan ke atau ada Roh itu semua tak penting bagi ku. Aku ada "Mata" yg boleh lihat benda2 yg tak mampu dilihat oleh Manusia biasa, oleh itu, apa yg saya lihat sudah mencukupi utk ku. ;)

tickmeoff Publish time 5-2-2007 01:04 PM

Terima kasih di atas pandangan saudara yang suka menyibuk tidak tentu pasal dan mulut goblok macam perempuan bihrah.

I love you

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Sephiroth Publish time 5-2-2007 01:11 PM

Originally posted by tickmeoff at 5-2-2007 01:04 PM
Terima kasih di atas pandangan saudara yang suka menyibuk tidak tentu pasal dan mulut goblok macam perempuan bihrah.

Mata saudara boleh tengok jubor perempuan semasa mandi juga keh? kekekekeke

Jawab persoalan saya itu kalau mampu.

Kalau tak mampu, BELAJAR cara nak tutup mulut kamu. Tak ada orang suka orang bodoh merepak.

tickmeoff Publish time 5-2-2007 07:15 PM

jadi, sibuk ker hari ini? jaga kain sendiri cukup, usah nak berlagak dan memandai kat forum orang lain. kononnya mata boleh tengok benda yang tidak boleh ditengok orang lain, kalau bukan berlagak apa namenya?

pondan sangat menyibuk kat post post orang lain.. tidak ditanya pun diberitahu pendapatnya juga. kalau bukan sibuk apa lagi? kalau dah pandai sangat, buat lah agama sendiri ala Sephiroth Dewa Khalala, macam tu boleh orang lain belajar mata kau yang boleh tengok jubor perempuan bila mandi.

memang aku merepek, sebab I learn from the best.:P

sibok

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Sephiroth Publish time 6-2-2007 08:08 AM

by tickmeoff

memang aku merepek, sebab I learn from the best.

Thank you, Syaitan. Selamat tinggal. :bye:

tickmeoff Publish time 6-2-2007 12:42 PM

eh? macam ni ke orang yang ada mata tengok jubor perempuan semasa mandi?

kalau nak panggil saya syaitan lihat perangai sibuk sendiri. Caras agama orang lain kat forum kristian pula, caras orang islam jugak, caras juga orang buddhist kat forum ini. your action speaks for yourself. macam lah sendiri dewa tuhan maha berkuasa dan maha mengetahui kebenaran... PUH LEZZZZ...

Penyibuk PONDAN sangat! NYAH!

[ Last edited bytickmeoff at 6-2-2007 12:48 PM ]
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