adlismel Publish time 20-7-2004 10:58 AM

Human Brain

Proses yang berlaku dalam otak manusia..

Output -----> Proses -------> Input

Jadi dalam proses tersimpan Short-term memory dan Long-term memory

fleurzsa Publish time 20-7-2004 11:35 AM

Hermann Brain Dominance Instrument

Nak kongsi Teori HBDI ...

Kuadran - A
Bahagian Otak - Hemisfera Kiri atas (Otak Kiri Atas)
Fungsi Utama - Logik, Analitik, Fakta kuantitif

Kuadran - B
Bahagian Otak - Hemisfera Kiri bawah(otak Kiri Bawah)
Fungsi Utama - Pengelolaan, Urutan, Perancangan, Terperinci.

Kuadran - C
Bahagian Otak - Hemisfera Kanan Bawah(Otak Kanan Bawah)
Fungsi Utama - Perasaan (Interpersonal), Kinestatik, Emosi, Peramah

Kuadran - D
Bahagian Otak - Hemisfera Kanan Atas (Otak Kanan Atas)
Fungsi Utama - Holistik, Intuitif, Kesepaduan, Sintesis

fleurzsa Publish time 20-7-2004 11:41 AM

Pandangan I...


Fitrah semulajadi semua manusia adalah berusaha utk memahami sesuatu perkara atau benda.Contohnya...sesapa yg masuk board ni mesti cuba nak memahamkan apa2 perkara yg diperbincangkan.

Tapi kefahaman seseorg itu ada masanya terhad dan terbatas kerana berasaskan pengalaman dan pendidikan.

So mari kita buat andaian... apakah punca kebijaksanaan manusia?

adlismel Publish time 20-7-2004 12:30 PM

course yang aku ambil memang berkitan dengan brain.. tetapi brain dan komputer..

jadi diorang nak aplikasikan kepintaran minda untuk menghasilkan robot atau komputer sepandai manusia

tina^^ Publish time 20-7-2004 02:00 PM

to me the most important thing is PROGRAMME inserted

in both human mind and robots. because

we take a look at human brain wic consist of 2 main parts : subconscious and conscious.

our mind is like an iceberg. while we are more aware of our outer or conscious mind, the part with greater impact is hidden part. all of our conscious thought contribute to buildingsof our subconscious mind.

take this as example: when we learned to eat with knife and fork, it took a lot of conscious thought and effort.however, over the time, our deftness with our cultery became a part of our subconsious programme such that now we would really miss our real hands.

our bodily functions, attitudes and all of our learned skills are keyed into our subconsious mind.

if we ask eighty-word per minute typist to tell us where the keys are on a typewriter, they will be in big trouble! they can hit five keys per scond with their eyes shut using their subconscious mind, but they cant consciously tell us the arrangement of the letters unless that put their hands on the table and pretend to type. fascinating?? isnt it??

take this is another example;when we walk across the road, do we need to concentrate on every step? when we chew gum, do we think about it? when we eat a pizza do we have to work at digesting it? when we go to sleep, do we need to concentrate to keep breathing??

cluade bristol in his book title :THe magic of believing" stated...JUst as the consious mind is the source of thought, so the subconsious is the source of power.

our subconscious mind contains our "PROGRAMMES" for walking, talking, solving problems when we are asleep, healing our body, saving our life in times of dangr and much much more.

we dont do any of these things with our conscious mind, do we?? but we do them with our subconsious.

it includes the sum total of all our conscious thoughts up untill now and watever we have deposited into our subconsious mind by way of our day to day thoughts is now producing the results in our life.

our subconscious programmes are responsible for our successes and our failures.
furthermore, it does not matte wether what our subconscious believes to be true is true. we will reap results consistent with wat our inner programmes say should happen.

referring to the above discussion...i believe...both power...human power can be transmitted into robotic thru the programmes inserted into them in order for them to be as clever as human...but definetely..God's creature are the best ever!

[ Last edited by tina^^ on 20-7-2004 at 02:02 PM ]

intan Publish time 20-7-2004 05:46 PM

cara penggunaan bahagian otak juga tak sama antara lelaki dan wanita...
ada sesiapa yg ada rujukan disini...:)

tina^^ Publish time 20-7-2004 06:03 PM

Originally posted by intan at 2004-7-20 05:46 PM:
cara penggunaan bahagian otak juga tak sama antara lelaki dan wanita...
ada sesiapa yg ada rujukan disini...:)

maybe boleh refer kat sini for sexes brains work differently...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/1425797.stm

Natalie Publish time 20-7-2004 06:11 PM

Originally posted by fleurzsa at 20-7-2004 11:41 AM:
Pandangan I...


Fitrah semulajadi semua manusia adalah berusaha utk memahami sesuatu perkara atau benda.Contohnya...sesapa yg masuk board ni mesti cuba nak memahamkan apa2 perkara yg diperbin ...

salah satu punca kebijaksanaan manusia, bagi saya, pengalaman kot.. :lol

contohnya macam masa saya form5, saya rasa addmaths tu susah.. so saya kurang bijak kat situ.. tapi bila saya dah masuk ke tahap tinggi sket, dan belajar benda yang sama, mungkin dengan kaedah berbeza, saya rasa benda tu senang dan bleh score.. sebab saya dah ada pengalaman belajar addmaths.. yang tinggal cuma mengasah pengalaman dan pengetahuan tu jer..

intan Publish time 21-7-2004 09:39 AM

Originally posted by tina^^ at 2004-7-20 06:03 PM:


maybe boleh refer kat sini for sexes brains work differently...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/1425797.stm
thanks......:)

fleurzsa Publish time 21-7-2004 11:31 AM

Originally posted by intan at 20-7-2004 05:46 PM:
cara penggunaan bahagian otak juga tak sama antara lelaki dan wanita...
ada sesiapa yg ada rujukan disini...:)

Yg I tau la...

Kekuatan otak lelaki ngan otak pompuan memang sedikit berbeza..

Sejak lahir memang pompuan mempunyai kekuatan pemahaman yg lebih tinggi berbanding lelaki.

Pompuan dibuktikan dpt menyebut perkataan pertama lebih cepat dan sekitar tahun kedua dpt bercakap dgn lancar.

Lelaki lak, ia kuat dlm proses penglihatan di mana ia dikuasai oleh otak kanan.

Tapi persekitaran mempengaruhi jugak dlm hal ini...

mbhcsf Publish time 21-7-2004 12:57 PM

salam..

yes ada differences in male and female brain - well biologically which one weighs more - that's the crude aspect we could be looking at.
but how they perform specific taskespecially in calculation? well in 1995 i have read in DISCOVERY? magazine - telling that in performing calculations - themale brain tend to have this thing thing that referred toas " compartmentalize" site - that means they ( researchers) could easily locate the specific site that is being activated. In conrast to female brain in which the site of activation is a bit scattered ( not completely localised) everywhere so i think ( ini i fikir) kita female utilised more sites kot...

how about mood? emotion ? affect? ada perbezaan kah...

h,, anyone

okay now we know that the braoin is indeed Nice a gift yeah??

right?
so how do we learn language????

hmm....???

marquez Publish time 21-7-2004 01:07 PM

Adismel: Pernah dengar nama Daniel Hillis, kalau tak silap saya dia cuna menghasilkan komputer yang dapat berfungsi seperti otak manusia. Sejauh mana usaha dia berjaya?

adlismel Publish time 23-7-2004 10:04 PM

daniel heillis --- rasanya saya tak dengar lagi.. mungkin ada dan saya tyerlupa.... nanti saya check balik ok,...

eton_lin Publish time 24-7-2004 11:01 AM

Originally posted by tina^^ at 20/7/04 02:00 PM:
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our subconscious programmes are responsible for our successes and our failures.
furthermore, it does not matte wether what our subconscious believes to be true is true. we will reap results consistent with wat our inner programmes say should happen.
...

er..xpaham la tang sinih, ble explain more? thanx!

tina^^ Publish time 28-7-2004 02:07 PM

Originally posted by eton_lin at 2004-7-24 11:01 AM:


er..xpaham la tang sinih, ble explain more? thanx!

in brief, wat is our subconscious mind believe is wat we get...thats why we always heard this femes quote "If u think u can, u surely can"..this may relate to this issue...

for example, if u consistently walk, talk and think "success", then u will inevitably develop a subconscious expectancy of success. u will attract, and u will demonstrate it.

another example, if u seel urself being hopeless at mathematics, u will always have difficulties with figures. perhaps sparked by some bad early experiences, u will have developed an attitude says, "No matter wat, i cant do Maths!" therefor, u dont try, becos u alredy deposited in ur mind...that u surely can't.

generally, u will fall further and further behind. if ever u do succeed, you say "Its a fluke!", when u dont succeed, you say, "There! that proves im hopeless!"

chances are that u wud also tell others that u cant add up. the more u tell ur brader, ur husband, ur neighbour, ur frenz and ur bank manager that u are hopeless case, the more u believe it, the more deeply embedded that self-image becomes.


another example, if u want to be a confident person, continue to see yourself brimming with confidence in ur creative imagination. see the goal already achieved and your inner mind will set abt producing ur ideal end result.

so long as u see urself as someone who is always broke, u will remain broke. if u see yourself as a financial winner, you will be prosperous.

acknowledge that, daily, u create programmes in ur subconscious by ur thoughts, so watch wat u think!

again...if u think u can...u surely can..if u think u can't, surely u cant....

Nazra81 Publish time 28-7-2004 08:48 PM

Originally posted by adlismel at 20-7-2004 12:30 PM:
course yang aku ambil memang berkitan dengan brain.. tetapi brain dan komputer..

jadi diorang nak aplikasikan kepintaran minda untuk menghasilkan robot atau komputer sepandai manusia

Buka buku neuroanatomy & functions, kita akan berasa takjub dgn ciptaan yg satu ini...

Utk aplikasikasikan perkara ni mmg sgt susah, perlu penyelidikan bertahun2 dan usaha yg berterusan. Saya dgn bersama2 rakan juga sdg berusaha ke arah itu. Kita lihat shaja nanti sama ada ank2 Melayu ni mampu atau tidak. Boleh msk web MINT kalau nak tahu dgn lebih lanjut lagi...

Agul Publish time 28-7-2004 11:10 PM

Originally posted by tina^^ at 28-7-2004 02:07 PM:


in brief, wat is our subconscious mind believe is wat we get...thats why we always heard this femes quote "If u think u can, u surely can"..this may relate to this issue...

for exa ...

This is more true than most people realize.

marquez Publish time 28-7-2004 11:49 PM

Bercerita tentang otak nih, saya teringat kata-kata Chuang Tzu yang saya terjumpa entah di mana:

(Konteks: dia tertidur dan bermimpi dia rama2 kemudian bila terjaga dari tidur dia berfikir:) Apakah aku ini seorang manusia yang bermimpi menjadi rama-rama atau seekor rama-rama yang bermimpi menjadi manusia?

Filem tentang otak manusia yang paling menarik sekali, the Matrix, juga melontarkan pertanyaan yang sama. Kerana akal itu kumpulan-kumpulan impuls elektrik, apa sebenarnya realiti ini? Kalau tak silap saya ada eksperimen yang dibuat mengkaji impuls (maaf tak boleh nak bagi detail, ada kawan pinjam buku yang saya jadikan rujukan tu) ini dan didapati kita hanya secara sedar mengenalikehadiran rangsangan (seperti kesakitan) dalam satu sela (after a certain interval); sesuatu ang revolutionary, kalau kita fikirkan kerana it begs the question: what is conscious thought?

fleurzsa Publish time 29-7-2004 02:01 AM

Bulan lalu I ada baca kat Dewan Budaya mengenai pemetaan gen manusia...

Jadi masyarakat tlh mula bimbang ttg Projek Pemetaan Manusia ni.   Maklumat genetik boleh disalahgunakan oleh pihak jahat.   Macam zaman Nazi Jerman dulu...percubaan menghasilkan baka terbaik bg membentuk manusia super..

lebih kurang gitu la..:)

Agul Publish time 29-7-2004 12:01 PM

Originally posted by marquez at 28-7-2004 11:49 PM:
Bercerita tentang otak nih, saya teringat kata-kata Chuang Tzu yang saya terjumpa entah di mana:

(Konteks: dia tertidur dan bermimpi dia rama2 kemudian bila terjaga dari tidur dia berfikir:) Apa ...

Ni yang Einstein ckp "reality is an illusion, albeit a persistent one" tu...

Secara asasnya, bagi kita, mana ada realiti yg objektif. Semunya persepsi sahaja.

Berkaitan dgn kesedaran dan otak manusia, aku mengesyaki fungsi otak manusia bukan sepertimana yang kita semua faham. Kesedaran boleh wujud tanpanya... Mungkinkah otak(kalau ianya wujud) hanyalah satu alat utk membantu kita berfungsi dalam dimensi ini sahaja?

p/s:Siapa pernah baca buku The Holographic Universe?
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