Truth about Islam and Muslims
Muslims have been (since 2001) whining that the People of the World have rejected them due to Islamaphobia. They have been trying to "sell" this image of themselves being victimized by People who did not understand them or misqouted Islamic verses or by certain fanatics who had hijacked Islam for their own benefit.And frankly speaking, for about a decade after Sept.11, 2001, most of the People did come to believe that Islam was hijacked by fanatics who used it and misqoute from Al Quran for their own idealism. The People of the World actually believed that IF we opened our doors and our arms to regular Muslims, they could stand with us and fight the fanatics and the problem of terrorists and terrorism will do away. But a decade had passed and nothing had changed. By 2011, People have started to wonder - what if the problem were not the fanatics themselves but Islam?
In this thread, I'm going to bring Youtube clips on real-life Muslims in real-life situation preaching about Islam, other religions and how Muslims should treat non-Muslims.
Some of them may contain violence, hate-speech and other nasty things so be advised before opening.
Source : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4D_OLm-RV4
I find some of the statements made by the "teacher" to be funny.
Like when he said everyone outside (Islam) was a Kuffar. If they are "kuffar" (or Kafir I think), then what are you (a Muslim) doing inside a non-Muslim country? What are you doing here with jobs from non-Muslims? Food and money from non-Muslims? The very building you sitting in and insulting others are from non-Muslims' as well. Everything about you is a Kuffar and yet you think you are greater than others? You are like a naked man who walks around proclaiming he is clean. {:1_541:}
Another thing I find it funny was the question he asked the student whether they want to be mind-controlled by the society they live in OR to follow the Sunnah of Muhammad?
What is the different between Mind-controlled by the Society or Mind-controlled by Muhammad? It is both mind-control. The Immigration scam
For over a decade (since September 11, 2001), Muslims have been portraying themselves as victims of fanatics within their own societies who they claim are targetting them and their "willingness" to stand by the West to assist in getting rid of these fanatics and "clear" Islam's good name.
And the rest of the World brought in to their words, believing that it could be impossible for majority of Muslim societies to be bad. Surely many of them could be good people who want to do the right thing and will do the right thing if they are giving chance. Chance of security for themselves and their family where the fanatics will not find them. Chance for clean food, water and better living conditions. Chance for higher education which could produce individuals who will respect the Human Rights and live with the rest of the World as civilized human beings.
Yes, for these purposes, we have laid our doors open for emigrants to come into our country, into our homes and enjoy the hard earned freedom, product and services we created and the stability and peace we have fought and established. We were sadly mistaken.
Ask yourselves this question - What if the whole terrorism act we have today are nothing more than a ruckus to fool non-Muslims into allowing Muslims into their society so they could grow and become the very cancer that is eating away at everything in Middle East?
Think about it. 120 years ago, Muslims had an empire of their own in Middle East which covered and controlled most of Middle East. Then, as the World War 1 loomed, the Ottoman empire seek protection from Europe (namely British, French and Russia) but these superpowers rejected their request for protection, forcing Ottoman Empire to seek it with Germany, which marked its own end.
After World War 1, the Ottoman Empire have been partitioned and whatever power it had was lost. This had lead many of the Muslims in Middle East angry. But despite of their anger and unity (through Islam), it could take them another 30 years (from 1922 to 1950s) to actually do anything about it. By the time they did reunite as a group, the Israel nation was formed and become a new target for their hatred of the Europeans who had destroyed their "Empire". Please take note that Turkey was formed by Westerners after the Partition of the Ottoman Empire but since Turkey was occupied by Muslims, the Muslims in Middle East turn their hatred toward Israel.
Since 1950s to 1990s, there was very little the Muslim community can do, despite of having large reserves of petroleum and natural gas in their territories. There were some Muslim daydreamers like Gaddafi, Saddam and Ahmednijab who tried to reestablish a unified Arabic nation like the Ottoman empire but they all failed and Muslims knew that as time progressed, the chance to strike back at Europe are becoming less and less achievable. Furthermore, Muslims themselves understood the condition they were in. The World was moving fast away from them and unless they do something drastic to reattach themselves to the mainstream society, they will be at risk of being left out and die off.
During 1990s, there were many attacks against US and foreign interest in the Middle East but most of these attacks were not severe enough to grab attention of the World. They needed something drastic that could affect the People (of any nation) and they need to find a suitable target. And their target was the US Government because there were no bigger drama queen except the US in this World. And that is how September 11, 2001 had occurred.
People in the USA started to ask why this had happened and the Muslims came out with an excuse that fanatics had taken over and they were targetting Muslims and the World in general. And since there is no greater drama queen than the US, the USA quickly become the mouth-piece of Muslim society and forcing others to accept Muslims into their fold so they could be use to control the fanatics.
But what they did (and continued to do until recently) was to bring in more and more Muslims into their own society where these Muslims grow like parasites, spread their deep-rooted hatred that existed since the fall of Ottoman empire and start growing their own militants within their borders who had no other purpose than to create the same sewer-like society which they had came from. What a sick way to teach young generations. hudalarva replied at 5-2-2017 10:26 PM
What a sick way to teach young generations.
Truth is Truth. There is no reason to sugarcoat them just to please some Muslims.
Majority of Muslims (if not all) knows these are the facts.
Source : http://edition.cnn.com/2017/01/29/politics/us-immigration-protests/
(CNN)America's major airports became ground zero Sunday for a second consecutive day of protests against President Donald Trump's new immigration policies.
The affected airports included Los Angeles, San Francisco, Washington, Dallas, New York's JFK, Raleigh, Houston, Seattle, Portland, Atlanta and more.
Crowds gathered in and around terminals to challenge the executive order, which temporarily bars entry to the United States from seven Muslim-majority countries. It also bans all refugee admissions for the next 120 days.
One of the major headlines today is President Donald Trump's orders to initialize an immigration bans. A lot of people (including the fat pigs of BN here in Malaysia) were up and armed against the executive order and a appeal court in USA (forgot which state was it) have even openly challenged the order in order to put it on hold. Franklu speaking, I couldn't be bothered on what happening in USA. But one cannot help to wonder ... why is it that Muslims (and their two-legged pets) are up and armed against an order that bans entry from SEVEN Muslim countries in the World when there are dozen more Muslim countries (like Malaysia) which were not affected. This is why I think it is so.
Muslim society worldwide today are at a brink of change. Their social currently in the same social situation as European community were back in 1000 AD. Their social structure and conditions were closely related to what the Church had to allow or reject (which they did by controlling the monarch government of Europe at that time) and the European people were forced to live a live no different from today's farm animals. They had no rights, no education (except for selected few elites), very little economic status and even less say in the political situations in Europe. They are expected to pay their taxes and support directly or indirectly (through taxes) the war effect in the Holy land (Jerusalem).
So it is no surprise that when the Black Death came for a visit back in 1200 AD, 1/3 of the European people had died and the Christian society in Europe started to collapse within three years. It took them another 100 years for them to rever back to the state they were before and by this time, the European community had understood that the Church was incompetent in handling their affairs in Worldly manners. In their eyes, the Church looked a lot like a handsome man who was impotent ( :lol: ) - nice to look at, nice to interact with but when asked to "perform", cannot really get his "tool" up and running. If you know what I mean. :P
Today's Muslims society are in the same situation. They have shoved their own presence in just about every field their religion could allow. I remember back in 1980s and early 1990s when Muslims here called for ban of football (Americans called it Soccer) because they feel the game was insulting the memories of Muhammad's grandson (was it Kassim or Hussein? Can't remember) who was killed at Karbala and his head was chopped off and was kicked around in a game. Today you can trace back hands of wealthy Saudi Arabian businessmen behind many of European football clubs.
Same goes for other entertainment media like cinemas. I don't know whether anyone noticed or not but many of the TV shows today seems to have tendencies to "glorify" Muslim (or more percisely Arabic) cultures. TV shows which features things like Darwinism, non-Muslim cultures or even question the existence of God in non-Biblical/Al-Quranic ways seems to be axed after a season or two without any reasons whatsoever - even so they (the shows themselves) had earned the Channel a high rating.
It is very likely that Muslim society today (especially the wealthy, elites and the businessmen) have become so attached to the modern society in other nations while their general society (the poor desolute) become too dependant on no-Muslim societies so much that any attempt to separate them (like what Donald Trump is doing now) will bring the Muslim societies in general into the same path as Christian societies were prior to the Black Plaque. Muslims are - in general - a parasitic society. Their Islam makes them into a glorified farm-animals who are incapable of being creative, sophisticated or even self-sufficient without warfare to support their economy or non-Muslims to support them indirectly. Cutting them off from mainstream society WILL bring them closer to collapse and Islam being in the same situation as Christianity did after the end ofthe Black Plaque 700 years ago.
And I think that is why Muslims worldwide, especially in Malaysia here are fighting so eagerly to lift the ban. It had NOTHING to do with Human Right as individual nations have right to allow or disallow any person or groups into their border for sake of security reasons. So, I will wish Trump good luck in continuing his policy and may other countries follow his suit and stop opening their borders to Muslims, especially from Middle East. Good luck.
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https://www.facebook.com/TheSecularTourist/videos/252619031846539/
https://www.facebook.com/TheSecularTourist/videos/252619031846539/
by ..Atheist.
The topic is: "is Islam a religion of peace?" I am posting this clip because I think it addresses a simple, yet important question: if Islam is not violent, then why is it the only religion whose critics fear for their lives?
Good clip by the way.
The main statement the speaker (I think that was Douglas Murray, rite) spoke is that ONLY in Islam that critics are fearful of being killed.
The answer to why this is so can easily be understood IF one were to reject Islam as a religion of God) and look at it as an ideology of Politics. Scrap away are religious or supertitious nonsense in Al Quran and Al Hadith and just look at the structure of Islam and how its controls the masses.
You will see the same structure that exist in Islam (and Islamic community) also exists in the Communism. Just look at Soviet Union between 1910 - 1980s and China between 1950 to today. You will find the same mental state as that of Muslim society.
The followers of Islam have to live under a strict guideline which had strict punishment for anyone who do not follow - especially womenfolks since they are weaker and easier to control. Islam allows the creation of "elite groups" who will monitor the rest of the society, control the military and the information channel and determines what information will reach the masses.
Everyone who is not the followers of Islam are labelled as enemies and those who support these "enemies" are enemies of the Islam and harsh treatment awaits both. This could also include "honor killing" their own daughters for dating men of different belief system.
warfare an trickery awaits the enemies of Islam and Muslims allowed to use any means (including trickery) to get the upper hand against their enemies.
Now differentiate that with what had happened in Soviet Union during the Cold wars and in China today and you will find large amount of similarities between Communist and Islam. This means that Islam is NOT a religion of God but a man-made political system in disguise of a religion. And that is why those who criticize Islam are living in fear of being killed.
Which means the Internet is God-sent to Mankind so we could get together and bash this ridiculous political system back to the Stone Age before Muslims do something to throw Mankind back to the Stone Age. Source : http://www.msn.com/en-my/news/national/industri-agama-untuk-orang-kaya-islam/ar-AAnEEmb?li=BBr8Hnu&ocid=iehp
by Farouk A. Peru
Sebenarnya, perkhidmatan yang bercirikan agama bukanlah perkara baru. Semasa zaman remaja, saya pernah menghadiri kursus ibadah haji diajar ustaz yang agak terkenal.
Ustaz ini membawa bakal haji ke Mekah dan memberi perkhidmatan ala “tour guide” dan juga tukang baca doa. Kerana kepakarannya dalam ilmu Islam, peluang mendapat haji mabrur (iaitu haji yang diterima Allah) dijamin.
Ini bukan perkhidmatan percuma dan hanya untuk mereka yang sanggup membayar beribu-ribu ringgit di atas kos haji sendiri.
Jika anda terpaksa mengumpul duit berdekad-dekad untuk menunaikan ibadat haji, memang anda tak mampu membeli haji mabrur!
Islam may not be a good religion for all of its masses but it is definitely good "business plan" for some of its members.
I have seen many of these so-called Haji packages being offered in many places. Also being offered nowadays are courses in studying Al Quran and Hadith, Muslim daycare centers and Muslim camps for youngsters. It seems that anything which Muslims can make money out of, they could do so by pasting Muslim or Islam name on it and offer it to Muslims.
To me at least, all these business plans makes no sense at all. Why should Muslims - especially the poor or middle-income Muslims - forced into going to Mecca for Haj when they could save that money and invest for themselves and their future? Is Allah going to reject them if they don't go to Saudi Arabia, pour their hard-earned money into the laps of the Arabs and come home flat broke but with a nice title called Haji?
To be fair, Hindus also have similar plans to go to sacred sites in India but this is not compulsory. No one said that a Hindu must visit all these temples in India or for Indians to come visit temples in Malaysia (or anywhere else). IF one can afford the money and time to do so, then they are welcome to do so and even if they did it, they are no different than those who did not go.
As for Buddhist, they don't have to go to China for any pilgrimor even to India to visit the birth place of Gautama Buddha. Like Hindus, they too have no compulsory needs to do that just to prove that they are Buddhists.
Hell, I don't even remember Christians going on pilgrim to the Holy Land (Jerusalem) or the Vatican City as a compulsory act in order to be a Christian, but I do know couple of older generation Christians who had done so (when to Jerusalem). Like Hindus and Buddhists, there are no special titles for them even if they have completed such pilgrimage.
So why is it that in Islam, these act of Umrah (pilgrimage) have become such a great business to the point that it seems to drain all the money from the Muslims? I know that going on Haj is one of the five pillars of Islam but I also seems to remember that it is stated that the Umrah is not a compulsory act as well.
And even if it is, isn't it more Islamic if the cost of the Umrah is reduced as much as possible? After all, if India - a secular nation - could provide subsidies for its Muslim population (refer to below), why Malaysia cannot?
Source : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haj_subsidy Source : https://sg.news.yahoo.com/hunt-bomb-plotter-030712017.html
FAISAL ASYRAF AND ALIZA SHAH
New Straits TimesMarch 6, 2017
KUALA LUMPUR: Counterterrorism operatives are hot on the trail of an Islamic State (IS) militant who was arranging for a large-scale vehicle-borne improvised explosive device (VBIED) attack here.
Sources said the man was the intermediary between the Malaysian IS leader in Syria, Muhammad Wanndy Mohamed Jedi, and two men who were arrested recently.
The man, they said, would be the one who prepared the attack, and the duo, a Malaysian and an Indonesian, would carry it out.
A source said the Malaysian and Indonesian were also in contact with Wanndy and had received their instructions, but the latter had yet to decide what the target of the VBIED would be.
Seriously, what is wrong with you Muslims? Even in a country that is peaceful like Malaysia where its people resolves conflict through dialogues, discussion and forums (which is why Najib is still alive and not strung up on a tree like he could in some Asian countries), you still want to use violence due to your Islamic influence. SHAME ON YOU.
Muslims kept on claiming that the violence in Middle-East are due to Israel and violence elsewhere is due to American influence. What is your excuse here?
Muslims thinks that they could do whatever they want and even if non-Muslims were to strike back like what they did back in May 13, 1969, they could lose. Sorry to say this but our (non-Muslims') tolerance exist only until our families are not threaten. IF Muslims - especially Malays here - keep these going on, they going to lose a lot of things - including their country. Don't be surprise. The followers of Allah strikes again.
Source : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0UumPHU0IA
Published on 23 Mar 2017
On March 22, 2017, Khalid Masood launched a terrorist attack that began on Westminster Bridge and ended in Parliament Square. The Islamic State (ISIS) claimed responsibility for the attack. In response, British Prime Minister Theresa May insisted that the London attack was a "perversion of a great faith."
Muslims in the country were so quiet since yesterday because their great warriors, the ISIS group had successfully strike again, this time at the heart of London, killing 3 people and injuring some 40 people in the process.
While silently they could be celebrating the triumph of Allah, the Satanic god of Arabs in striking down innocent bystanders because neither ISIS nor Allah have any balls to strike at the soldiers in the battlefield, Muslims in Malaysia have to be quiet about it in fear that non-Muslims who already pissed for all the idioticy their fellow Muslims have brought to the country, could react. Non-Muslims already reacting angrily toward Muslims for their blindly support of Muslims from most of Asian region (including Syrians who non-Muslims suspect brought ISIS along with them to the country).
So far, there are no whispered of Muslim defenders here in this forum. As always, these cowards await for the dust to settle before crawling out of their holes and whine about how great Allah is. religion of peace? {:3_96:} 3abdul replied at 27-3-2017 02:35 AM
religion of peace?
There never was Peace in Islam nor will there ever be Peace.
The term "Islam is Peace" did not even come from Muslims either. It came through the loudmouth of Bill Clinton back in 1990s when he was addressing Arabic society and was explaining to them that he was fighting against Gaddafi and Saddam and not Islam because (according to him) Islam was Peaceful. Muslims who they themselves knew better (that Islam is anything BUT Peaceful) have took this idiocy and shove it down every non-Muslims' throat ever since.
Warning :- Contains graphical violent content that may not be suitable for young people, pregnant ladies and WILL give Gays and Lesbians nightmares.
Source : http://zeenews.india.com/india/muslims-chant-allah-o-akbar-throw-gays-from-rooftop-as-sharia-punishment-1992370.html
The video allegedly shows Muslims shouting 'Allah-O-Akbar' and throwing gays from rooftop as punishment according to Sharia law.
Famous columnist Tarek Fatah has tweeted the video.
This is the true face of Syariah Laws.
Our Common Laws exist to punish, prevent and even reeducate young people about right and wrong. There are times when some punishment are beyond mercy and should be dealt with harsh punishment to prevent others from following the same footsteps of the criminal.
I for one do accept that Death Penalty (or Capital Punishment as it is known in many countries) should be allowed for crimes like drug trafficking, murder, rape and treason. I do not find any evidence whatsoever that shows that crime rate in countries abolish death penalty had actually decreased or that human being living in such country have suddenly become good just because their government choose to be lenient against them when they commit crime.
While I do not condone or condemn same sex marriage or gay activities, I could often limit my opinion to myself and believe that each person are responsible for his or her own actions. They are answerable to God in their own time and if they choose to live as atheist, that too is on their heads and have nothing to do with me.
However, this video is obviously shows something that is unacceptable to me. By what right does a group of people (like those syariah police) has to throw people off the roof just because of these people's personal choices?
Lastly, Muslims often chant that Islam is Peaceful and yet, the best way for them to solve gay problem is by throwing them (the gays) off a roof of a building? {:1_515:} Sephiroth replied at 4-4-2017 01:22 PM
Warning :- Contains graphical violent content that may not be suitable for young people, pregnant la ...
KATA TUHAN: DARI AYAT2 KU ADA YANG DAPAT PETUNJUK
DAN ADA YANG DISESATKAN
KATA MUHAMMAD: BANI ISRAEL BERPECAH KEPADA 71/72 GOLONGAN
UMATKU BERPECAH KEPADA 72/73 GOLONGAN
HANYA SATU GOLONGAN YANG MASUK SYURGA
IAITU MEREKA YANG IKUT SUNNAH DALAM BERKUMPULAN
kamu nak tau sangat tentang ISLAM dan KEBENARAN
kamu kenalah cari yang SATU golongan ini, baru kamu faham apa itu ISLAM:)
tapi lagi sesuai kalau kamu MENELITI MEMAHAMI DAN MENGHAYATI KITAB VEDA..........................:):):)
History of Islam and Muslims for the past 1,400 years.
Source : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uj8J62BqRMo
Recommended to watch by all to understand what Islam is and how it was spread. KATA TUHAN:
JIKA KAMU IKUT KEBANYAKAN MANUSIA DI ATAS MUKA BUMI INI
PASTI MEREKA AKAN MENYESATKAN KAMU
oleh itu - ikut KITAB TUHAN
jangan ikut manusia yg kononnya beragama
ikut agama dan jangan ikut orang2 yg beragama:) by besikarat
ikut agama dan jangan ikut orang2 yg beragama
Kalau kau cakap benda ini kepada orang2 Taliban dan ISIS, mereka akan kerat "benda" kau (itupun kalau kau ada lah). Bagi orang2 Islam spt Taliban dan ISIS, mereka sememangnya mengikuti agama Islam. {:1_541:}
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