mariappaned Publish time 23-11-2016 12:10 AM

Bagaimana kita tahu agama Kristian adalah dari Tuhan?

1) Dan Injil Kerajaan ini akan diberitakan di seluruh dunia menjadi kesaksian bagi semua bangsa, sesudah itu barulah tiba kesudahannya." (Matthew 24:14)

Injil mana?

Injil ini!

Bukan injil itu!



God_Eater_8 Publish time 23-11-2016 05:31 AM

berdasarkan bukti dari kitab injil?:laugh3:

Sephiroth Publish time 23-11-2016 08:00 AM

Edited by Sephiroth at 23-11-2016 08:02 AM

Kalau agama Kristian itu adalah dari Tuhan, APASAL orang2 Kristian yang mengikutinya melakukan kerja2 yang jahat yang lebih hebat kalau dibandingkan dgn SEMUA KAUM LAIN di atas muka bumi ini?

Yang mencipta senjata2 merbahaya dan tahap kemusnahan yang tinggi - Orang Kristian.
Yang mencipta Pornografi dan menjadikan pelacuran sbg "perniagaan" antarabangsa - Orang Kristian juga.
Yang menjahanamkan dunia ini dgn pollution dan menghancurkan hutan serta lautan - Orang Kristian juga.
Yang menbunuh haiwan2 secara menbabi-buta semata2 kerana "sukan" - Orang Kristian juga.
Yang menjadikan agama sbg "perniagaan" (Google Megachurch) - Orang Kristian juga.

Walaupun benda2 di atas itu ada juga dilakukan oleh orang2 bukan Kristian, tetapi majoritynya dilakukan oleh orang2 Kristian terutamanya di luar negara.

Kalau agama Kristian itu datangnya dari Tuhan, apasal pengikutnya macam SAMPAH? {:1_567:}

PS : Maaf ye, tahap Bahasa Malaysia saya tak tinggi sangat.

Truth.8 Publish time 23-11-2016 10:57 AM

Edited by Truth.8 at 23-11-2016 10:59 AM

Sephiroth replied at 23-11-2016 08:00 AM
Kalau agama Kristian itu adalah dari Tuhan, APASAL orang2 Kristian yang mengikutinya melakukan kerja ...
injil apa benda??? injil adalah ciptahan muslims ...we believed in Bible or Tanakh in Hebrew....not such thing for         injil...


As for corrupt hindu madam sepiroti, I would advise you use your tiny brain before saying anything...same goes hindudoes cheating, behaving like god and those nonsense when the       Hindu holy says such thinsdevlish... so the hindus behave like paraiah and sampah ...u can visit india....twiste talking like doubletalk , do not keep promise, little money but act like big shot...this         some of the example of indian hindus ...
as for the Bible:


What Does the Bible Say About Christian Values and Christian Life?Frequently Asked Questions
[*]How can I follow and obey God's will and live a Godly life?
[*]How can I be faithful to God in my everyday life?
[*]What does it mean to do good works?
[*]What are Christian moral and ethical values?
[*]What does God require of us?
[*]How can I obey the Word of God?
[*]How can I live my life in Christ?
[*]What should I do to avoid sinning?
[*]How can I be a child of God?
[*]How can I show my love for God?
[*]What values are taught in the Bible?
[*]What are the Christian virtues?
Many people sincerely want to live Godly lives but we often hear conflicting ideas of what that means.
IntroductionWorldly values include wealth, power, pleasure, revenge, fame, vanity and status. These are the most important things to people who perceive no power or purpose beyond themselves. Worldly values promote jealousies, resentments and conflicts among people in accordance with the purposes of Satan (John 8:44, Acts 5:3, Romans 16:17-20, 2 Corinthians 4:4, Ephesians 2:1-3, 4:25-32, 2 Timothy 2:22-26, 1 John 3:8-10).The values taught in the Bible are often the opposite of worldly values: kindness and respect for all people instead of power; humility instead of status; honesty and generosity instead of wealth; self-control instead of self-indulgence; forgiveness instead of revenge. Christian values promote peace and good will among people in accordance with the purposes of God. We will never achieve perfection in this life, but those people who strive to obey God often find a sense of joy and peace that no worldly rewards can match!
Here is a list of ten values or principles for living that are emphasized most strongly in the Bible:
1. Worship Only GodOne day, a religious leader asked Jesus which of the commandments was most important:      "The most important one," answered Jesus,      "is this: 'Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is         one. Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with         all your mind and with all your strength.' (NIV, Mark 12:28-30)
The Hebrews of Old Testament times tended to lapse into worship of pagan deities and statues of animals or other objects, but anything that takes the place of our devotion to God becomes an idol or false god, and that is forbidden by the first of the Ten Commandments (Exodus 20:1-6). Jesus particularly singled out love of wealth as a false god (Matthew 6:24; Luke 16:13), and other Bible passages mention greed, covetousness, arrogance, gluttony and pride as being equivalent to idolatry.
link :http://www.christianbiblereference.org/faq_ChristianValues.htm


mariappaned Publish time 23-11-2016 12:54 PM

Sephiroth replied at 23-11-2016 08:00 AM
Kalau agama Kristian itu adalah dari Tuhan, APASAL orang2 Kristian yang mengikutinya melakukan kerja ...

:lol: Kan ada undang-undang, kenapa masih ada rompak, rogol, pembunuhan, dll? Itu soalan anda?

Jawapannya:

Jangan sesat! TUHAN tidak membiarkan diri-Nya dipermainkan. Karena apa yang ditabur orang, itu juga yang akan dituainya. (Galatians 6:7)








mariappaned Publish time 23-11-2016 12:58 PM

God_Eater_8 replied at 23-11-2016 05:31 AM
berdasarkan bukti dari kitab injil?

Ya!

Kalau anda faham ayat ini, anda akan tahu bagaimana injil adalah buktinya:

Sebab pemberitaan tentang salib memang adalah kebodohan bagi mereka yang akan binasa, tetapi bagi kita yang diselamatkan pemberitaan itu adalah kekuatan TUHAN. (1 Corinthians 1:18)




Sephiroth Publish time 23-11-2016 01:15 PM

by mariappaned

Kan ada undang-undang, kenapa masih ada rompak, rogol, pembunuhan, dll? Itu soalan anda?

Undang2 itu adalah ciptaan manusia. Ianya tak sempurna dan memerlukan pengubahsuian pada setiap masa mengikut peredaran masa.

Adakah dgn menyamakan Kitab Injil kamu dgn Undang2 ciptaan manusia, kamu mengatakaan bahawa Injil juga ciptaan manusia dan sebab itulah ianya tidak diambil kisah oleh pengikut agama Kristian? Macam itu kah? {:1_567:}

Jangan sesat! TUHAN tidak membiarkan diri-Nya dipermainkan. Karena apa yang ditabur orang, itu juga yang akan dituainya. (Galatians 6:7)

Jawapan apa benda ini? Aku tanya kenapa pengikut agama Kristian banyak yang sesat dan melakukan dosa2 yang lebih teruk dari kaum lain dan kamu menjawab dgn mengatakan bahawa tuhan kamu tak akan biarkan nama dia dipermainkan??? {:1_567:}

Jawapan yang tak masuk akal.

mariappaned Publish time 23-11-2016 01:19 PM

Sephiroth replied at 23-11-2016 01:15 PM
by mariappaned




Let me rephrase that in English.

Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. (Galatians 6:7)

There will be a Judgement day.


Sephiroth Publish time 23-11-2016 03:36 PM

by mariappaned

There will be a Judgement day.

So basically you are saying - ignore what (wrong) these Christians are doing in the real World, because they going to get what coming to them in a afterlife?

Why don't you go and preach that to the Lawyers, Judges and Law makers so they could close down courts, jails and police station? Just tell them that Law and Order is not requires in the World because the criminals will be judged and sentence in afterlife. {:1_567:}

God_Eater_8 Publish time 23-11-2016 05:04 PM

mariappaned replied at 23-11-2016 04:58 AM
Ya!

Kalau anda faham ayat ini, anda akan tahu bagaimana injil adalah buktinya:


Camni aku pn boleh buktikan Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry tu wujud dgn kitab Harry Potter;P

mariappaned Publish time 23-11-2016 08:17 PM

God_Eater_8 replied at 23-11-2016 05:04 PM
Camni aku pn boleh buktikan Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry tu wujud dgn kitab Harry Po ...

itu yang saya maksudkan. anda sudah faham maksud 1 Corinthians 1:18

mariappaned Publish time 23-11-2016 08:23 PM

Sephiroth replied at 23-11-2016 03:36 PM
by mariappaned




I can see that you have no clue about the Bible. If you really want to debate please first read the Bible. Let me give some verses on this:

Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers. For there is no power but of God: the powers that be are ordained of God. (Romans 13:1)

Whosoever therefore resisteth the power, resisteth the ordinance of God: and they that resist shall receive to themselves damnation. (Romans 13:2)

For rulers are not a terror to good works, but to the evil. Wilt thou then not be afraid of the power? do that which is good, and thou shalt have praise of the same: (Romans 13:3)

For he is the minister of God to thee for good. But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil. (Romans 13:4)

Wherefore ye must needs be subject, not only for wrath, but also for conscience sake. (Romans 13:5)

For for this cause pay ye tribute also: for they are God's ministers, attending continually upon this very thing. (Romans 13:6)

Render therefore to all their dues: tribute to whom tribute is due; custom to whom custom; fear to whom fear; honour to whom honour. (Romans 13:7)

Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law. (Romans 13:8)


My point is, if you do crime, you pay the time. It can be now or it can be later. Crime doesn't pay.




Sephiroth Publish time 24-11-2016 07:56 AM

Edited by Sephiroth at 24-11-2016 08:00 AM

by mariappaned

I can see that you have no clue about the Bible. If you really want to debate please first read the Bible.

Don't assume,stupid wench. :huffy

I have read the Bible AT LEAST THREE TIMES. King James Version - from cover to cover. I have sat in a church with my Christian friends THREE TIMES and heard Christian priests speak the Words. I have felt the Spirits that moves in those halls and have felt them trying to influence me. I have spoken to these fallen Spirits and used them to influence your priests to send my words as his own to his flock.

DO NOT TELL ME WHAT I SHOULD DO AND DO NOT.

My point is, if you do crime, you pay the time. It can be now or it can be later. Crime doesn't pay.
There can only one NOW OR LATER. Are you saying that Christians doing evil things in this World should be ignored cos they are going to pay the crime later?

mariappaned Publish time 24-11-2016 10:36 AM

Sephiroth replied at 24-11-2016 07:56 AM
by mariappaned




I think you have problem understanding English. I alreay answered the question. Please read again my post.

Sephiroth Publish time 24-11-2016 10:50 AM

mariappaned replied at 24-11-2016 10:36 AM
I think you have problem understanding English. I alreay answered the question. Please read again...

No, you IGNORED the question and tried to divert it toward a neutral answer which has NO answer.

My question was (and I qoute) :
There can only one NOW OR LATER. Are you saying that Christians doing evil things in this World should be ignored cos they are going to pay the crime later?Take note of the bolded statement. THAT is the question. I asked whether you think Christians who did evil things should be ignored because they will pat the crime later (in Afterlife) as you claimed.
Is the question clear? Are you able to answer this question? Yes or No is sufficient here.

mariappaned Publish time 24-11-2016 11:04 AM

My answer: I follow what the Bible says. That is what I answered. Please read what I wrote.

Sephiroth Publish time 24-11-2016 11:23 AM

mariappaned replied at 24-11-2016 11:04 AM
My answer: I follow what the Bible says. That is what I answered. Please read what I wrote.

Then you are no different than a Muslim. Muslims and Christians are just herded animals - never think on your own, just follow like a cattle to your slaughter. Never even think that you follow is Evil in disguise of "God". Never even think that your religion is just a political system in disguise of a religion.

Go ahead with your life. When Time comes, you will have no time for regrets. {:1_550:}

mariappaned Publish time 24-11-2016 11:27 AM

Sephiroth replied at 24-11-2016 11:23 AM
Then you are no different than a Muslim. Muslims and Christians are just herded animals - never th ...

You have no idea what is written in the Bible. I clearly stated my answer with supporting Bible verse with my own words.

YES! I am a lamb.

NOT A WOLF!

Sephiroth Publish time 24-11-2016 12:43 PM

by mariappaned

YES! I am a lamb.

And you will end up like a lamb also - on a dinner plate for wolves, lions and tigers.{:1_550:}

mariappaned Publish time 24-11-2016 02:00 PM

Sephiroth replied at 24-11-2016 12:43 PM
by mariappaned




And you claim to have read the Bible.

As it is written:
That no man should be moved by these afflictions: for yourselves know that we are appointed thereunto. (1 Thessalonians 3:3)
For verily, when we were with you, we told you before that we should suffer tribulation; even as it came to pass, and ye know. (1 Thessalonians 3:4)






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