Hinduism asal dari Islam
menurut@Ah_Kwan
keh keh keh
benar lah itu ..
so apa masalahnya?
kaabah pun dibina kembali oleh Ibrahim a.s
so, ugama Ibrahim yang Ibrahim bawa pada masa itulah yang lu namakan sama dengan Hindu itu..
selepas beribu tahun, agama Ibrahim tu dah terpesong jadi Hindu, pergi sembah berhala bagai..
itu yang turun Rasul2 selepas itu..perbetulkan
Musa a.s turun, lama2 selepas Musa balik terpesong jadi Hebrew
Isa a.s turun, lama2 selepas Isa diangkat ke langit terpesong jadi Kristian
turun Muhammad s.a.w , lama2 akan terpesong juga pun..sekarang pun sudah banyak terpesong
tapi kan Allah daj cerita, hujungnya akan turun lagi Al-Mahdi dan Isa a.s perbetulkan kembali
Islam itu asalnya dagang, kembalinya pun dagang..
bila Al-Mahdi turun, yang tinggal tauhid dan fekah Muhammad s.a.w sahaja..
ke lu tak pernah dengar ini cerita?
keh keh keh:laugh3:
keh keh keh
tajuk pun salah..
sanggup bukak thread lain.. ;P
selepas gagal meyalak
keh keh keh Edited by Sephiroth at 8-9-2016 09:33 AM
The verse in Devanagari script—
यदा यदा हि धर्मस्य ग्लानिर्भवति भारत ।
अभ्युत्थानमधर्मस्य तदात्मानं सृजाम्यहम् ॥४-७॥
परित्राणाय साधूनां विनाशाय च दुष्कृताम् ।
धर्मसंस्थापनार्थाय सम्भवामि युगे युगे ॥४-८॥
The verse in Roman script—
Yada yada hi dharmasya glanirbhavati bharata
Abhythanamadharmasya tadatmanam srijamyaham
Paritranaya sadhunang vinashay cha dushkritam
Dharmasangsthapanarthay sambhabami yuge yuge
The meaning of these two slokas is—
Whenever there is decay of righteousness, O Bharata,
And there is exaltation of unrighteousness, then I Myself come forth ;
For the protection of the good, for the destruction of evil-doers,
For the sake of firmly establishing righteousness, I am born from age to age.
The quote from above comes from Bhavagad Gita and it simply means the duty of reestablishing Dharma falls into the hands of Maha Vishnu as the Perserver of Dharma and Satyam.
It does NOT falls into hands of any mere mortals NOR does God (of Hinduism) requires any mortals like Moses, Jesus or Muhammad to do His work.
Why Islam CANNOT be replacement for Hinduism?
by Ah_Kwan
so, ugama Ibrahim yang Ibrahim bawa pada masa itulah yang lu namakan sama dengan Hindu itu..
selepas beribu tahun, agama Ibrahim tu dah terpesong jadi Hindu, pergi sembah berhala bagai..
itu yang turun Rasul2 selepas itu..perbetulkan
Sorry kpd mereka yang tak faham English, saya malas nak layan orang yang tak bersekolah. Terima Kasih.
The above statement (the qoute one) is an indication that some Muslims actually thinks Islam is here to improve upon Hinduism, the same way Buddhism was here to eradicate Caste System within Hinduism (which many Hindus had accepted). I will list down couple of reasons WHY Islam cannot be a replacement for Hinduism.
1. Hinduism did not change so much that Islam was required (to replace it).
Unlike Judaism and Christianity and Christianity and Islam which indicated a large number of changes within the belief system (of Judaism and Christianity), there aren't that many changes within Hinduism which requires a total overall of its belief (via introducation of Islam to replace it).
Yes, I admit that Caste System does exist. I admit that Brahmins who supposed to concentrate on Spiritualism have divert to politics to the point that number of sects like Vaishnaism and Shivatism (among others) had risen up and confuse the regular people. I admit that Atheism also was in rise even before the coming of Buddha. However, I fail to see how Islam can fit in this situation where it can actually improve the situation, unless someone going to say killing off all the Hindus, atheists and Buddhists (which what Muslims have been doing all these time) was a solution. Frankly speaking, that could be like setting a house on fire because the occupants was annoyed by the bugs living in it.
2. Islam did not bring or improve anything. Matter a fact, they made it worse.
If someone were to claim Islam was the newest solution (for our Spiritual needs), then they MUST provide us ample proof that Islam had brought improvement over what we had before (namely Judaism, Christianity, Buddhism and Hinduism).
Islam did not only bring anything new, it had failed to improve anything as well. It did not improve the treatment of women under Judaism. It did not change the bigotry fighting among Judaism and Christianity (but used it for its own advantage), it did not improve the Caste System in Hinduism and it did not protect Buddhism from its collapse.
Islam made everything WORSE. It had introduced Slavery even so earliest Muslims were slaves. Slavery under Islam had flourished for nearly ONE THOUSAND years, becoming a profitable business not only for the Muslims but also for the Christians who followed.
As for Caste System in India, Islam did NOTHING, because Islam itself have certain "Caste System" of its own. The labels for Jews and Christians were Al-Kitab (people of the Book) and Kafir. People who were conquered, still living by their own (non-Islamic) belief are labelled Dhimmi, non-Muslims who have speacil relationship with Islamic society (like merchants and traders) are called Musta'min (or Protected ones), people who are NOT Jews, Christians or Muslims but was caught or captured are labelled Kafirun al-Asliyun and those who left Islam are called Murtad. IF anything, Islam brought the newly followed Caste System (which exist to this day in India) to India.
3. Islam did not bring any improvement to the Society (of India).
If you drive a Ferrari and I came to you and tell you that you have something obsolete and offer a cow cart in exchange, will you accept? Of course not. But that is what Muslims want us to think by stating that Islam was a replacement for Hinduism (which they said was obsolete).
India at that time (1,400 years ago) have been the most advance society on the Planet. It's science, technology and understanding of the World (and the Universe in general) was far beyond ANYTHING existed before and after it (even to this day where many of India's ancient achievement were yet to be reduplicated).
For Islam to replace Hinduism as the core of the People, it MUST the Hindus something which they could take and use in daily life. But what Islam offered was nothing more that superstitious 1001 Night fairy tales about Jinns, Angels, an Arab noone at that time heard off and a riddiculous way of living that many of the Hindus found offensive to follow.
So I like summarize that Islam was not a replacement for ANYTHING. Muhammad created Islam as a way to get into power and Islam continued to function merely as a political system to this day. That is why Islam will NEVER replace Hinduism.
Ah_Kwan replied at 7-9-2016 08:45 AM
keh keh keh
tajuk pun salah..
ko nie mmg bodoh kaa?:(
selepas beribu tahun, agama Ibrahim tu dah terpesong jadi Hindu, pergi sembah berhala bagai..
itu yang turun Rasul2 selepas itu..perbetulkan
Sephiroth replied at 9-9-2016 01:29 PM
Why Islam CANNOT be replacement for Hinduism?
keh keh keh
Apa kehal lu mengarut kata Islam mau gantikan hindu? ;P
Islam wujud sejak Adam a.s
Muhammad cuma ajar syariat yang disempurnakan sahaja.
Tauhid dari Adam sampai Muhammad tetap sama...
keh keh keh
Reborn_Atheist replied at 11-9-2016 02:28 AM
ko nie mmg bodoh kaa?
keh keh keh
bodoh atau tidak, bukan lu boleh klasifikasikan pun ;P
keh keh keh
Ah_Kwan replied at 10-9-2016 06:33 PM
keh keh keh
bodoh atau tidak, bukan lu boleh klasifikasikan pun
betul gak....... meh tunjuk banyak lagi bodoh tu.... boleh join@sam1528 {:1_563:}
Reborn_Atheist replied at 11-9-2016 02:39 AM
betul gak....... meh tunjuk banyak lagi bodoh tu.... boleh join@sam1528
keh keh keh
sudahlah di belasah tercirit dalam thread lain, sanggup pula bukak thread baru
and then terus kata orang bodoh.. ;P
siapa yang bodoh ni sebenarnya? ;P
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Ah_Kwan replied at 10-9-2016 06:41 PM
keh keh keh
sudahlah di belasah tercirit dalam thread lain, sanggup pula bukak thread baru
thread mana yg penganut2 tolol mampu belasah aku? :o
Reborn_Atheist replied at 11-9-2016 02:46 AM
thread mana yg penganut2 tolol mampu belasah aku?
keh keh keh
tak perlulah nak berbolak balik..oh lupa..lu etis..mana pernah cakap jujur..
tara pegangan memang takkan jujur pun ;P
keh keh keh
Edited by Reborn_Atheist at 10-9-2016 07:06 PM
Ah_Kwan replied at 10-9-2016 06:56 PM
keh keh keh
tak perlulah nak berbolak balik..oh lupa..lu etis..mana pernah cakap jujur..
hanya penganut2 bebal macam kamu yg percayakan pedofil berumur 53 tahun yg berjimak dgn budak darjah 3:D
jika kamu bukan org munafik, bawa kan bukti thread mana..... bukannya susah...... {:1_550:}
Reborn_Atheist replied at 11-9-2016 03:04 AM
hanya penganut2 bebal macam kamu yg percayakan pedofil berumur 53 tahun yg berjimak dgn budak darj ...
keh keh keh
etis oh etis...
kelakar je wa nengok ;P
sila teruskan hamun tanpa fakta ini ya..wa mau tido
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Ah_Kwan replied at 10-9-2016 07:06 PM
keh keh keh
etis oh etis...
bahkan aku dah buktikan AQ kamu tu ciptaan manusia bebal ;P
Reborn_Atheist replied at 11-9-2016 03:07 AM
bahkan aku dah buktikan AQ kamu tu ciptaan manusia bebal
keh keh keh
teruskan bermimpi ;P
keh keh keh
Edited by Reborn_Atheist at 10-9-2016 07:33 PM
Ah_Kwan replied at 10-9-2016 07:17 PM
keh keh keh
teruskan bermimpi
penganut bebal cam ko laa yg mimpi tuhan tu wujud {:1_563:}
Reborn_Atheist replied at 11-9-2016 03:31 AM
penganut bebal cam ko laa yg mimpi tuhan tu wujud
keh keh keh
kami tak mimpi..
kami saksi dah.. ;P
keh keh keh
Ah_Kwan replied at 10-9-2016 07:33 PM
keh keh keh
kami tak mimpi..
siapa saksi kamu? malaikat atau tuhan zeus?:$
Reborn_Atheist replied at 11-9-2016 03:34 AM
siapa saksi kamu? malaikat atau tuhan zeus?
keh keh keh
bodoh betul..
kami menyaksikan tuhan kami dan muhammad la bongok..
baru benar dipanggil siddiq..
selagi belum saksi, angan-angan semata
keh keh keh
Ah_Kwan replied at 10-9-2016 07:36 PM
keh keh keh
bodoh betul..
mmg bodoh betul laa ko nie........... tuhan ko tak wujud, nabi ko dah mati....... siapa jadi saksi ko? bodoh apa ko ni?:laugh3: